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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 01:41:04
September 15 2014 01:40 GMT
#741
so whats the reason so many pro adc use 4x attack speed glyphs and 5x flat mr?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 01:48:51
September 15 2014 01:48 GMT
#742
TIL: Low health Garen R vs low health Darius R: Darius always wins.

Damn.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 15 2014 01:59 GMT
#743
On September 15 2014 10:40 kongoline wrote:
so whats the reason so many pro adc use 4x attack speed glyphs and 5x flat mr?

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it hits some break point where they can get another auto off in a trade.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 15 2014 02:20 GMT
#744
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 15 2014 02:44 GMT
#745
On September 15 2014 10:59 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 10:40 kongoline wrote:
so whats the reason so many pro adc use 4x attack speed glyphs and 5x flat mr?

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it hits some break point where they can get another auto off in a trade.

The 2% AS gained from the glyphs increases the fasts ADC's attack speed by 0.01358 attacks per seond. I refuse to believe anybody is operating at that margin of error in trades.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 15 2014 02:45 GMT
#746
I run AS because of lvl 1, and my dubious perception that it lets me push better (mostly Kog) and get lvl 2 1st, which means that the lane is won because I have probably gotten to lvl 6 safely.
Freeeeeeedom
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 15 2014 02:57 GMT
#747
On September 15 2014 11:44 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 10:59 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 15 2014 10:40 kongoline wrote:
so whats the reason so many pro adc use 4x attack speed glyphs and 5x flat mr?

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it hits some break point where they can get another auto off in a trade.

The 2% AS gained from the glyphs increases the fasts ADC's attack speed by 0.01358 attacks per seond. I refuse to believe anybody is operating at that margin of error in trades.


Well they run like 16% in total. But there has to be some margin where you go from 1 attack to 2 attacks right? So while its hard to believe that sure its in "this random .01358 attacks per second window" its not so hard to believe it if we stack AS in order to achieve that window.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 15 2014 03:01 GMT
#748
thats meaningless its not like 2 attacks breaks the game its still only 3% faster than the guy who has 1.95 or w/e attack speed without the glyphs
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 15 2014 03:36 GMT
#749
Just had a game where I went 13/0/17 on Vi. She's definitely not one of the fotm junglers right now, but if you know how to play her, she's pretty good.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
September 15 2014 03:40 GMT
#750
On September 15 2014 10:48 Sufficiency wrote:
TIL: Low health Garen R vs low health Darius R: Darius always wins.

Damn.


I just wish they'd make Garens ult physical damage, don't need to give it scaling, but at least let armor pen work with it.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#751
On September 15 2014 12:36 Kinie wrote:
Just had a game where I went 13/0/17 on Vi. She's definitely not one of the fotm junglers right now, but if you know how to play her, she's pretty good.


I just had a game where Vi split push with no wards against udyr and nidalee all game.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 15 2014 03:50 GMT
#752
How do I not die? Over my last 40 matches I averaged 8 deaths per game in losses and 4 deaths per game in wins, so it's obviously something that will help me gain MMR.
@miicah88
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 15 2014 03:55 GMT
#753
On September 15 2014 11:57 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 11:44 Gahlo wrote:
On September 15 2014 10:59 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 15 2014 10:40 kongoline wrote:
so whats the reason so many pro adc use 4x attack speed glyphs and 5x flat mr?

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it hits some break point where they can get another auto off in a trade.

The 2% AS gained from the glyphs increases the fasts ADC's attack speed by 0.01358 attacks per seond. I refuse to believe anybody is operating at that margin of error in trades.


Well they run like 16% in total. But there has to be some margin where you go from 1 attack to 2 attacks right? So while its hard to believe that sure its in "this random .01358 attacks per second window" its not so hard to believe it if we stack AS in order to achieve that window.

My reference point was was the difference between 4x AS glyphs and not using them. That is the window of getting an extra auto for forcing a favorable trade is. At that slim of a margin I just don't find it a compelling reason because you could just arms race it up to all the glyphs.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 03:58:35
September 15 2014 03:57 GMT
#754
On September 15 2014 12:50 miicah wrote:
How do I not die? Over my last 40 matches I averaged 8 deaths per game in losses and 4 deaths per game in wins, so it's obviously something that will help me gain MMR.

Every time you die, think about what lead to that death.

Ex. splitpushing without wards, think maybe you should have warded there next time
enter a teamfight and get blown up or cc'd, maybe bait the cc or maybe you misjudged their teams damage
die 1v1 in lane, maybe you overestimated your own power, or underestimated your opponent's power, or you misplayed mechanically leading him to kill you.

Self evaluation is better than someone giving generic advice without seeing replays as you can then tailor your own playstyle to bandage your weaknesses.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 15 2014 04:04 GMT
#755
On September 15 2014 09:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 08:19 Complete wrote:
2 questions

1) When does World Finals start? It's the only pro LoL I usually end up watching every year :p

2) Does anybody play Swain much? Every guide I've read says R>E>Q>W, but I'm having a hard time with a 16s CD on W for most of the game...I guess I need to be more careful using it...

Worlds starts thursday. the finals themselves are sunday 19 oct

check http://euw.lolesports.com/worlds/2014/worlds-2014/schedule/group_a_and_b for more details.

Yo are those times in Taiwan? Cuz that's like...sleep o clock...

:'(
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 15 2014 04:08 GMT
#756
On September 15 2014 13:04 Complete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 09:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 15 2014 08:19 Complete wrote:
2 questions

1) When does World Finals start? It's the only pro LoL I usually end up watching every year :p

2) Does anybody play Swain much? Every guide I've read says R>E>Q>W, but I'm having a hard time with a 16s CD on W for most of the game...I guess I need to be more careful using it...

Worlds starts thursday. the finals themselves are sunday 19 oct

check http://euw.lolesports.com/worlds/2014/worlds-2014/schedule/group_a_and_b for more details.

Yo are those times in Taiwan? Cuz that's like...sleep o clock...

:'(

5-10AM yep.

I guess I'm sleeping early and waking up later to try and watch some gaems. I can fortunately be at work in a weird afternoon-evening shift so I'll be k.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 15 2014 04:08 GMT
#757
On September 15 2014 12:50 miicah wrote:
How do I not die? Over my last 40 matches I averaged 8 deaths per game in losses and 4 deaths per game in wins, so it's obviously something that will help me gain MMR.

When are you dying? In lane? In teamfights? In skirmishes? While transitioning in jungle? In ganks?
liftlift > tsm
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 04:28:49
September 15 2014 04:27 GMT
#758
On September 15 2014 13:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 12:50 miicah wrote:
How do I not die? Over my last 40 matches I averaged 8 deaths per game in losses and 4 deaths per game in wins, so it's obviously something that will help me gain MMR.

When are you dying? In lane? In teamfights? In skirmishes? While transitioning in jungle? In ganks?


As support I seem to die a lot in lane skirmishes when I don't anticipate the enemy jungler, or overestimate my ADCs abilities. Top lane I die 1v1 a lot. Support and jungle I usually seem to die in teamfights. In some ways I think this is ok as I usually play tanky initiators but it does seem to happen a lot more than it should.

I think I'm going to start recording off op.gg and re-watching only games that I lose as I don't have time to re-watch every game.
@miicah88
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 15 2014 04:38 GMT
#759
On September 15 2014 13:04 Complete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 09:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 15 2014 08:19 Complete wrote:
2 questions

1) When does World Finals start? It's the only pro LoL I usually end up watching every year :p

2) Does anybody play Swain much? Every guide I've read says R>E>Q>W, but I'm having a hard time with a 16s CD on W for most of the game...I guess I need to be more careful using it...

Worlds starts thursday. the finals themselves are sunday 19 oct

check http://euw.lolesports.com/worlds/2014/worlds-2014/schedule/group_a_and_b for more details.

Yo are those times in Taiwan? Cuz that's like...sleep o clock...

:'(

Unfortunately those are legit so Asia can view the games in their section of the world at reasonable times. I am either going to shift my sleep schedule, drink way too much soda(I'm leaning towards this one,) or just hitting the vods.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 15 2014 04:59 GMT
#760
Seriously, my LeeSin is a retard magnet in solo queue. Doesn't matter how good I will play, how many kills I'll donate to our laners, they're still gonna fail and feed.

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