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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 11 2014 11:19 GMT
#261
Ascension is a success IMO. Pretty fun.

It's also reminded me how much fun Blue Ezreal is.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#262
Well they confirmed that cass fang is bugged and resetting to .7s instead of .5 and that it will be fixed....so that will be a massive buff to her dps.

Honestly though i really doubt she will be any good. I mean lets look what they did to her: they made her into an ap ADC. Thats literally all she is.

What makes an ranged ad viable right now?

Either great mobility or great range. She has neither. Then she has the huge issue of not even beaing able to "auto" unless she lands skillshots. She is basically ap draven right now but with a crap early game.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 11 2014 11:23 GMT
#263
Ascension is boring as sheeeit
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 11 2014 11:33 GMT
#264
Yeah, Ascension isn't that interesting. I'd rather just play dominion.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 11 2014 11:33 GMT
#265
On September 11 2014 20:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Ascension is a success IMO. Pretty fun.

It's also reminded me how much fun Blue Ezreal is.


AP Ezreal even more broken.

Game mode seems pretty easy. Leave a poke champ at bot and just rotate between the top 2 relics.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 11 2014 12:13 GMT
#266
On September 11 2014 20:20 sob3k wrote:
Well they confirmed that cass fang is bugged and resetting to .7s instead of .5 and that it will be fixed....so that will be a massive buff to her dps.

Honestly though i really doubt she will be any good. I mean lets look what they did to her: they made her into an ap ADC. Thats literally all she is.

What makes an ranged ad viable right now?

Either great mobility or great range. She has neither. Then she has the huge issue of not even beaing able to "auto" unless she lands skillshots. She is basically ap draven right now but with a crap early game.


and less than half the damage output
Carrilord has arrived.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 11 2014 13:49 GMT
#267
I don't like when they do big reworks when they could probably revitalize the champion with just a few tweaks. They should have only changed the Twin Fang reset mechanic, and then seen what effect that had, no need for all the random crap.
I am the Town Medic.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 11 2014 14:09 GMT
#268
On September 11 2014 20:20 sob3k wrote:
Well they confirmed that cass fang is bugged and resetting to .7s instead of .5 and that it will be fixed....so that will be a massive buff to her dps.

Honestly though i really doubt she will be any good. I mean lets look what they did to her: they made her into an ap ADC. Thats literally all she is.

What makes an ranged ad viable right now?

Either great mobility or great range. She has neither. Then she has the huge issue of not even beaing able to "auto" unless she lands skillshots. She is basically ap draven right now but with a crap early game.

Isn't that basically what she was before?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 14:24:52
September 11 2014 14:24 GMT
#269
Actually, from reading comments it seems that some of the high elo cass players have said that old cass was more about the poison damage because while E was great you often didn't get to use it a whole lot compared to your poisons (harder to fit them in when you're kiting). During the rework Riot themselves labeled old Cass as a lane bully more then anything else because they said that's what she did when she was strong.

I don't know Cass myself though, haven't been played in ages.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
September 11 2014 14:39 GMT
#270
Played cass a bit, if you're fed lategame, just landing one q on a squishy takes 1/3 to 1/2 of his health. it's like a mini nidalee spear with crap range. I'm sad if that's no longer a thing
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2014 14:42 GMT
#271
I have a question, how do you play top nidalee nowadays? From my solo queue games I've noticed recently that people make me play top lane and besides Jayce and Gnar I don't like and I don't play any top champ, because it's boring as hell and I wanted to try out nidalee. How to you build her? and how do you skill? is it R>E>Q>W? Also how about masteries and runes? Also, hard matchups for nidalee in top lane are ?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 11 2014 15:52 GMT
#272
On September 11 2014 23:42 739 wrote:
I have a question, how do you play top nidalee nowadays? From my solo queue games I've noticed recently that people make me play top lane and besides Jayce and Gnar I don't like and I don't play any top champ, because it's boring as hell and I wanted to try out nidalee. How to you build her? and how do you skill? is it R>E>Q>W? Also how about masteries and runes? Also, hard matchups for nidalee in top lane are ?


You play her correctly by hovering over her icon, remembering you have a soul, and picking someone else because it's not worth your humanity to play that cat-thing of ugly death.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2014 15:54 GMT
#273
On September 12 2014 00:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 23:42 739 wrote:
I have a question, how do you play top nidalee nowadays? From my solo queue games I've noticed recently that people make me play top lane and besides Jayce and Gnar I don't like and I don't play any top champ, because it's boring as hell and I wanted to try out nidalee. How to you build her? and how do you skill? is it R>E>Q>W? Also how about masteries and runes? Also, hard matchups for nidalee in top lane are ?


You play her correctly by hovering over her icon, remembering you have a soul, and picking someone else because it's not worth your humanity to play that cat-thing of ugly death.

Why not. I need some free ELO ride, because I got stuck in one league :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 15:57:28
September 11 2014 15:57 GMT
#274
On September 11 2014 23:42 739 wrote:
I have a question, how do you play top nidalee nowadays? From my solo queue games I've noticed recently that people make me play top lane and besides Jayce and Gnar I don't like and I don't play any top champ, because it's boring as hell and I wanted to try out nidalee. How to you build her? and how do you skill? is it R>E>Q>W? Also how about masteries and runes? Also, hard matchups for nidalee in top lane are ?


http://www.lolking.net/guides/592
This guide goes through most of it, only takes 1-2 games to get used to Nid.

Start W lv1, pounce to lane and set traps all around. Lv2 get Q if you can fight melee, E if you want to range poke.
Trinity Force -> Tank is the usual go-to build. Runes don't matter much, some go Hpen red but I prefer flat AD so it's easier to last hit while poking.

Nidalee struggles vs those who can gapclose and all-in her. Irelia's probably the most common/problematic one, you have to poke her down early and then stay very far back after 6.
Liquipedia"Expert"
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2014 15:58 GMT
#275
On September 12 2014 00:57 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 23:42 739 wrote:
I have a question, how do you play top nidalee nowadays? From my solo queue games I've noticed recently that people make me play top lane and besides Jayce and Gnar I don't like and I don't play any top champ, because it's boring as hell and I wanted to try out nidalee. How to you build her? and how do you skill? is it R>E>Q>W? Also how about masteries and runes? Also, hard matchups for nidalee in top lane are ?


http://www.lolking.net/guides/592
This guide goes through most of it, only takes 1-2 games to get used to Nid.

Start W lv1, pounce to lane and set traps all around. Lv2 get Q if you can fight melee, E if you want to range poke.
Trinity Force -> Tank is the usual go-to build. Runes don't matter much, some go Hpen red but I prefer flat AD so it's easier to last hit while poking.

Nidalee struggles vs those who can gapclose and all-in her. Irelia's probably the most common/problematic one, you have to poke her down early and then stay very far back after 6.

That's kind of an answer I was looking for, thanks a lot buddy, I'll try it out tonight
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
September 11 2014 16:00 GMT
#276
The cost on cassio E is so much crazier now that she doesn't have her old passive :l.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 11 2014 16:09 GMT
#277
On September 12 2014 01:00 wussleeQ wrote:
The cost on cassio E is so much crazier now that she doesn't have her old passive :l.

yea i was wondering how the passive change would affect her since her mana usage is very very heavy
Bronze player stuck in platinum
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 11 2014 16:20 GMT
#278
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
September 11 2014 16:21 GMT
#279
On September 12 2014 01:20 krndandaman wrote:
i've noticed that pretty much all NA nidalees go E max while all the korean nidalees go Q max. Dunno why that's the case

because Koreans know how to play poke?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 11 2014 16:21 GMT
#280
Because Koreans hit spears, duh.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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