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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 05:37:24
August 27 2014 05:35 GMT
#101
On August 27 2014 14:23 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:14 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:05 Ketara wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:53 Ketara wrote:
So if player A tells player B to kill themselves repeatedly, and player B leaves the game or tilts and starts playing worse, player A didn't affect player B's gameplay?

What?


Lets assume you are player C. Assuming player A's harassing activities are not changing his own ability to play, you are not affected until player B leaves/tilts, which, by the way, is not a given (for instance, if player B was me, or hopefully any pro player, otherwise a very insulting Fabby would be a valuable commodity).

The best analogy I can come up with right now is those Dutch Cartoonists that drew pictures of Mohammed a few years ago (player A). Everyone (player C) was unaffected until some radicals (player B) started rioting and looting and threatening terrorist attacks.


You are completely evading this question.

Did player A affect player B's gameplay or not.

Player B's tilting affects player C sure, but that is not what we are talking about.


You can't say that chat doesn't affect gameplay unless you can say that, in the above example, player A is not adversly affecting player B.


Sure, but only because they let them. Anyways, I thought of a better analogy:

Public High School, hallway, passing period, perhaps right before lunch. Girl 1 calls Girl 2 "a slut". Girl 2 proceeds to pull a knife and stab girl 1, 3, 4, 5. School then implements pat downs at every door.

Riots system: Girl 1 expelled (new idea is to temporarily send them to another school until you sort out the expulsion). Girl 2 suspended for 3 days.

Ketara's system: Blame Girl 1 for making your high school into the TSA.

Do you see the problem?

Edit:

On August 27 2014 14:08 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I said mid or afk and someone picked mid. Obviously they caused me to afk, so they're responsible not me.


By the way, this is one of my main problems, is that Riot basically refuses to police champ select (or does so extremely meagerly) because it DOES affect gameplay through team comp, etc.


Why aren't both blamed?
Girl 1 is blamed for her action, and Girl 2 is blamed for her action.
Also if you want to take out the hyperbole in your example a better analogy would be the girls in gym class playing volleyball and Girl 1 calls Girl 2 fucking shit player for missing a serve and Girl 2 gets upset and doesn't want to play anymore.

Both are at fault but the easier fix to the problem is to stop Girl 1 from being a giant douchebag.


Both should be blamed. The point is the current system only blames Girl 1 in most cases (I disagree with your Vball/ease of punishment POV, but that is minor).

On August 27 2014 14:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:14 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:05 Ketara wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:53 Ketara wrote:
So if player A tells player B to kill themselves repeatedly, and player B leaves the game or tilts and starts playing worse, player A didn't affect player B's gameplay?

What?


Lets assume you are player C. Assuming player A's harassing activities are not changing his own ability to play, you are not affected until player B leaves/tilts, which, by the way, is not a given (for instance, if player B was me, or hopefully any pro player, otherwise a very insulting Fabby would be a valuable commodity).

The best analogy I can come up with right now is those Dutch Cartoonists that drew pictures of Mohammed a few years ago (player A). Everyone (player C) was unaffected until some radicals (player B) started rioting and looting and threatening terrorist attacks.


You are completely evading this question.

Did player A affect player B's gameplay or not.

Player B's tilting affects player C sure, but that is not what we are talking about.


You can't say that chat doesn't affect gameplay unless you can say that, in the above example, player A is not adversly affecting player B.


Sure, but only because they let them.

I'm sorry not everyone has 5 feet skin of steel like you

arguing that chat does not affect gameplay when it's a fucking team game is just retarded. sorry.


Its not about that, its about the hierarchy of punishment. Actions>Words. This is how normal societies work.

On August 27 2014 14:28 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:15 Ketara wrote:
Yes, I see the problem. I am posting in TL GD and trying to argue with the hyperbole squad.

It's ok, I already put cLutz at the top of the "Shikyo Replacement Shitposters" list


Oh noes, I can already feel my posting quality declining as a result of this terrible insult.
Freeeeeeedom
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2014 05:37 GMT
#102
On August 27 2014 14:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:23 krndandaman wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:14 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:05 Ketara wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:53 Ketara wrote:
So if player A tells player B to kill themselves repeatedly, and player B leaves the game or tilts and starts playing worse, player A didn't affect player B's gameplay?

What?


Lets assume you are player C. Assuming player A's harassing activities are not changing his own ability to play, you are not affected until player B leaves/tilts, which, by the way, is not a given (for instance, if player B was me, or hopefully any pro player, otherwise a very insulting Fabby would be a valuable commodity).

The best analogy I can come up with right now is those Dutch Cartoonists that drew pictures of Mohammed a few years ago (player A). Everyone (player C) was unaffected until some radicals (player B) started rioting and looting and threatening terrorist attacks.


You are completely evading this question.

Did player A affect player B's gameplay or not.

Player B's tilting affects player C sure, but that is not what we are talking about.


You can't say that chat doesn't affect gameplay unless you can say that, in the above example, player A is not adversly affecting player B.


Sure, but only because they let them. Anyways, I thought of a better analogy:

Public High School, hallway, passing period, perhaps right before lunch. Girl 1 calls Girl 2 "a slut". Girl 2 proceeds to pull a knife and stab girl 1, 3, 4, 5. School then implements pat downs at every door.

Riots system: Girl 1 expelled (new idea is to temporarily send them to another school until you sort out the expulsion). Girl 2 suspended for 3 days.

Ketara's system: Blame Girl 1 for making your high school into the TSA.

Do you see the problem?

Edit:

On August 27 2014 14:08 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I said mid or afk and someone picked mid. Obviously they caused me to afk, so they're responsible not me.


By the way, this is one of my main problems, is that Riot basically refuses to police champ select (or does so extremely meagerly) because it DOES affect gameplay through team comp, etc.


Why aren't both blamed?
Girl 1 is blamed for her action, and Girl 2 is blamed for her action.
Also if you want to take out the hyperbole in your example a better analogy would be the girls in gym class playing volleyball and Girl 1 calls Girl 2 fucking shit player for missing a serve and Girl 2 gets upset and doesn't want to play anymore.

Both are at fault but the easier fix to the problem is to stop Girl 1 from being a giant douchebag.


Both should be blamed. The point is the current system only blames Girl 1 in most cases (I disagree with your Vball/ease of punishment POV, but that is minor).

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:14 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:05 Ketara wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:53 Ketara wrote:
So if player A tells player B to kill themselves repeatedly, and player B leaves the game or tilts and starts playing worse, player A didn't affect player B's gameplay?

What?


Lets assume you are player C. Assuming player A's harassing activities are not changing his own ability to play, you are not affected until player B leaves/tilts, which, by the way, is not a given (for instance, if player B was me, or hopefully any pro player, otherwise a very insulting Fabby would be a valuable commodity).

The best analogy I can come up with right now is those Dutch Cartoonists that drew pictures of Mohammed a few years ago (player A). Everyone (player C) was unaffected until some radicals (player B) started rioting and looting and threatening terrorist attacks.


You are completely evading this question.

Did player A affect player B's gameplay or not.

Player B's tilting affects player C sure, but that is not what we are talking about.


You can't say that chat doesn't affect gameplay unless you can say that, in the above example, player A is not adversly affecting player B.


Sure, but only because they let them.

I'm sorry not everyone has 5 feet skin of steel like you

arguing that chat does not affect gameplay when it's a fucking team game is just retarded. sorry.


Its not about that, its about the hierarchy of punishment. Actions>Words. This is how normal societies work.

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 14:28 xes wrote:
On August 27 2014 14:15 Ketara wrote:
Yes, I see the problem. I am posting in TL GD and trying to argue with the hyperbole squad.

It's ok, I already put cLutz at the top of the "Shikyo Replacement Shitposters" list


Oh noes, I can already feel my posting quality declining as a result of this terrible insult.


How does the current system only blame girl 1?
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 27 2014 05:38 GMT
#103


newest most fucking absurd siege champion coming soon
excellent design very meta many summoners shall buy the skins
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 27 2014 05:43 GMT
#104
--- Nuked ---
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 27 2014 06:09 GMT
#105
On August 27 2014 14:38 FinestHour wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTf9XJKd1qA

newest most fucking absurd siege champion coming soon
excellent design very meta many summoners shall buy the skins

On a scale of 1 to called it I get a 37
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 27 2014 06:09 GMT
#106
ok so as far as I can tell, having 40% cdr on the pbe hero gives you 100% uptime on double statue(as long as not using it for a turret, then it's just 100% uptime on 1), attacking at the speed of Triforce + PD at a .7 ratio, seems legit.
Carrilord has arrived.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 06:21:28
August 27 2014 06:18 GMT
#107
Doesn't Azir have pretty decent AP ratios? Can't he be played mid as well?
+ 0.6AP on Q
+ 0.7AP on W
+ 0.4AP on E
+ 0.5AP on R

Looks pretty good to me, I guess I'll try to play him AP as soon as he goes live.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 07:02:11
August 27 2014 06:34 GMT
#108
the problem that I see is his laning is pretty weak before he completes his first item (which I'm guessing will have to be athene's or Morello)

if you max W you don't get 100% uptime on a statue until rank 4, E is the most damage and best cdr per level but your body is the projectile so prob last, so Q is prob the best damage for in lane harass however even if you max it first you can't move a statue twice in it's duration until rank5 + 33% cdr

so basically the way I see it as he is on the ptr today, he's weak as fuck until lvl13 + 1 20% cdr item, after witch he's bonkers. all paper I have not touched the ptr, so take me with a grain of salt or at least your own judgement.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 27 2014 06:54 GMT
#109
On August 27 2014 14:38 FinestHour wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTf9XJKd1qA

newest most fucking absurd siege champion coming soon
excellent design very meta many summoners shall buy the skins

according to zenon, the guy who designed the champion, that's unintended.

it's probably going to be removed.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
August 27 2014 07:17 GMT
#110
He is a mage according to rito.
He seems to have an absurd ap ratio as of now. The fact that Q can be stacked up to 3 times makes his Q potentially one of the highest non-ulti damage spell in the game. He's also got the 0.7 ap ratio on his auto attacks which is almost a diana passive every auto..
Best Teemo World
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 27 2014 07:19 GMT
#111
Also Azir continues the 'Displacement' theme. Every new champs these days has a knockup or displacement. Getting a bit ridiculous.

A double passive seems bullshit too. That sun disc thing is like 100% unnecessary and just adds a whole new level of annoyance for someone who seems like they are going to be super annoying anyway.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 27 2014 07:21 GMT
#112
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2014 07:24 GMT
#113
On August 27 2014 16:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Also Azir continues the 'Displacement' theme. Every new champs these days has a knockup or displacement. Getting a bit ridiculous.

A double passive seems bullshit too. That sun disc thing is like 100% unnecessary and just adds a whole new level of annoyance for someone who seems like they are going to be super annoying anyway.


Comparing the last 10 champions released to the first 10 released in 2012, there's only been one more recently. What exactly is the problem with displacements anyway?
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2014 07:25 GMT
#114
On August 27 2014 16:21 JackDino wrote:
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.


Except that they have a system to identity false reports and people don't just get chat restricted for no reason.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 27 2014 07:25 GMT
#115
On August 27 2014 16:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Also Azir continues the 'Displacement' theme. Every new champs these days has a knockup or displacement. Getting a bit ridiculous.

A double passive seems bullshit too. That sun disc thing is like 100% unnecessary and just adds a whole new level of annoyance for someone who seems like they are going to be super annoying anyway.

eh. I really like his passive. it's certainly really unique and adds another cool element of gameplay.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 27 2014 07:28 GMT
#116
On August 27 2014 16:25 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 16:21 JackDino wrote:
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.


Except that they have a system to identity false reports and people don't just get chat restricted for no reason.

I've gotten those notification messages about being reported for bad language when I havent even said the word retard and only have said 2-5sentences total in the entire game. Great system.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2014 07:33 GMT
#117
On August 27 2014 16:28 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 16:25 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:21 JackDino wrote:
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.


Except that they have a system to identity false reports and people don't just get chat restricted for no reason.

I've gotten those notification messages about being reported for bad language when I havent even said the word retard and only have said 2-5sentences total in the entire game. Great system.


"when I havent even said the word retard"

Can't tell if this is serious or not.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 27 2014 07:43 GMT
#118
I'm also wondering if Azir will be a legit jungler after release. For me it seems like you can play him top as some kind of bruiser and AP mid mage as well, just in theory of course.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 27 2014 07:46 GMT
#119
On August 27 2014 16:33 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 16:28 JackDino wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:25 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:21 JackDino wrote:
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.


Except that they have a system to identity false reports and people don't just get chat restricted for no reason.

I've gotten those notification messages about being reported for bad language when I havent even said the word retard and only have said 2-5sentences total in the entire game. Great system.


"when I havent even said the word retard"

Can't tell if this is serious or not.

I often ask, in a nice way, if people are retarded in many of my games, out of pure curiosity.
In the games where I'm actually nice and dont even mention a word like retard, I get actually reported for offensive language. It's hilarious.
I'm also not the only one, people report you for anything if you do something they don't agree with, wether it's good or bad.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 27 2014 07:49 GMT
#120
On August 27 2014 16:46 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 16:33 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:28 JackDino wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:25 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 16:21 JackDino wrote:
The ranked restriction thing is beyond retarded, there's been people who havent flamed, get stomped hard, shit happens. 10minutes later one of their teammates tells you to report them because they've been flaming all game in allchat, just because they lost lane.
Mid reporting junglers for not passing up blue etc. So many people will be prohibited from ranked for no reason at all, this is gonna be fun.


Except that they have a system to identity false reports and people don't just get chat restricted for no reason.

I've gotten those notification messages about being reported for bad language when I havent even said the word retard and only have said 2-5sentences total in the entire game. Great system.


"when I havent even said the word retard"

Can't tell if this is serious or not.

I often ask, in a nice way, if people are retarded in many of my games, out of pure curiosity.
In the games where I'm actually nice and dont even mention a word like retard, I get actually reported for offensive language. It's hilarious.
I'm also not the only one, people report you for anything if you do something they don't agree with, wether it's good or bad.

That is totally reportable thing, at least for me, asking people out if they are retarded deserves to be punished. Also I have no idea how do you "ask in a nice way" about that.
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