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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 13 2014 12:05 GMT
#141
On August 13 2014 19:57 MoonBear wrote:
I don't even own Yasuo. But I need the new NANOMACHINES SON skin.


Skin looks really cool just a bit disappointed that he's getting it when he just got released in this year. So many people need skins man :<
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#142
On August 13 2014 05:56 NeoIllusions wrote:

Off-topic dicsussion should go in the Off-topic Discussion Thread.


Yeah keep that dick suction in the OT thread!

And yeah Akali is very easy to get going on, because you don't really have to hit your power spike at any really defined range of levels. You could+ start out 0-2 or 0-3 by the first 25ish minutes, clean up one team fight and start snowballing then. If they commit pinks for you and you still escape you're helping your team out by narrowing the other team's use of pinks on the map for vision control so she can be very disruptive. That said there's not many good Akali players left anymore.
Hey! How you doin'?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 13 2014 12:36 GMT
#143
Well if you're 0-2 or 0-3 but with 50+ cs over the rest of the players, yeah, sure.
It definitely becomes harder when teams group (if there's cc) and if she's too behind to kill a squishy fast. Also how is Zhonya's "full tank"?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 13 2014 12:38 GMT
#144
I am in support of any team with the tag DP. I hope they make it to LCS. Imagine Joe Miller yelling "OOOOOOOOOH DP IS GOING DEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!"

Yes Joe. Indeed they do. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 13 2014 12:45 GMT
#145
On August 13 2014 21:38 Celial wrote:
I am in support of any team with the tag DP. I hope they make it to LCS. Imagine Joe Miller yelling "OOOOOOOOOH DP IS GOING DEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!"

Yes Joe. Indeed they do. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DP Fabulous coming in hard from the back side!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 12:53:09
August 13 2014 12:48 GMT
#146
On August 13 2014 21:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 21:38 Celial wrote:
I am in support of any team with the tag DP. I hope they make it to LCS. Imagine Joe Miller yelling "OOOOOOOOOH DP IS GOING DEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!"

Yes Joe. Indeed they do. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DP Fabulous coming in hard from the back side!


BAH GAWD, THAT SPEAR HURT

DP had superior position in that fight, hitting them from the front, hitting them from the back!


On a sidenote, are Deficio and Joe drunk/high? Both are barely able to call abilities by their name, let alone player names. I.e. Minkywhale = Milkywhale, HolyPhoenix = HolyFelix, Death Mark = Blood Mark etcpp
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 12:53:39
August 13 2014 12:52 GMT
#147
Has anyone played gnar on PBE? is his Rage gene hp for mega gnar base HP or bonus HP?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 13:01:06
August 13 2014 12:57 GMT
#148
He gains flat bonus HP the way Nasus', Renekton's and Lulu's ults do.
Upon retransforming, the game takes his HP%, removes the flat bonus HP associated with Mega Gnar, then adjusts his HP to match the %.

Otherwise the huge bonus regen (at level 18 he has 175 HP5 iirc, that's like a 500 HP heal over the duration, actually less than that considering his abysmal base hp5 compared to other champs' natural regen) would sustain him he way Singed's ult does.

v just hop into teambuilder the first week, he'll be everywhere anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
August 13 2014 12:58 GMT
#149
tbh i dont see many top laners actually stand a chance in a 1v1 against gnar. I feel like everything melee will just get wrecked by Q+W
But i guess i will have to wait and see make a judgement after 2-3 weeks(No way he is not going to be permabanned the first week)
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 13:07:35
August 13 2014 13:03 GMT
#150
On August 13 2014 21:57 Alaric wrote:
He gains flat bonus HP the way Nasus', Renekton's and Lulu's ults do.
Upon retransforming, the game takes his HP%, removes the flat bonus HP associated with Mega Gnar, then adjusts his HP to match the %.

Otherwise the huge bonus regen (at level 18 he has 175 HP5 iirc, that's like a 500 HP heal over the duration, actually less than that considering his abysmal base hp5 compared to other champs' natural regen) would sustain him he way Singed's ult does.

v just hop into teambuilder the first week, he'll be everywhere anyway.


okay, so if you WERE to jungle him, Golem spirit would increase his mega gnar Hp by 20% then? Interesting.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 13 2014 13:08 GMT
#151
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 13 2014 13:08 GMT
#152
On August 13 2014 21:58 Bam Lee wrote:
tbh i dont see many top laners actually stand a chance in a 1v1 against gnar. I feel like everything melee will just get wrecked by Q+W
But i guess i will have to wait and see make a judgement after 2-3 weeks(No way he is not going to be permabanned the first week)


I can't seem to find his attack range but I think that will be the determining factor if he's untouchable or not top. Might be what old kennen was like but his ulti is a lot less reliable same with escape.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 13:35:56
August 13 2014 13:12 GMT
#153
I mean it's not like I stated twice already since the spotlight was posted that his aa range starts at 400 as mini Gnar and increases per level, up to a bit over 500.
His level 1 stats are by far the worst in the game, he's got figuratively no armour, standard low base AS (read 0.625) and relatively poor gain, even his MS starts at 300 (he gains 2 per level while in mini Gnar form so late game he'll end up faster than Pantheon and Yi though).

Riot stated that their goal was to make him bearable in lane while not condemning him to getting jumped on and exploded in later fights, hence the weird "level-scaling range/MS" idea behind him.
I guess that's something they could have done with Ziggs, so his harass wasn't as obnoxious in lane but he still had an edge in sieges to hit towers and apply his passive.

v it was listed in the PBE when he came out, and a Rioter talked about it (in an AMA I guess?). It's true that the wiki isn't updated yet.

Edit²: nvm they put the information elsewhere. He goes from 400 to 485 aa range, and his MS goes from 335 (slow, but not slowest) to 350 (so just under Pantheon/Yi, like Akali).
His AS level scaling is 6% in mini Gnar though, so he ends up with the highest natural AS in the game at 18, but Tristana and some others will still beat him during their steroid, even if you add his (60% of 0.625 for 3s with a 12s cd on the ability, and considering that he'll transform into Mega Gnar super fast anyway).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 13 2014 13:26 GMT
#154
Oh kk I was looking at all the written data. Didn't think the youtube vid would contain more information. Seems fine then.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 13 2014 13:35 GMT
#155
Paging Volband: RF is r unning a Janna (with a Vayne) at GamesCom. Knife into 2 Dorans start. Vs Kogmaw/Alistar. Why?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2014 13:46 GMT
#156
that skin is too much sam and not enough raiden.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 13 2014 14:09 GMT
#157
On August 13 2014 22:08 JimmiC wrote:
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On August 13 2014 14:35 miicah wrote:
On August 13 2014 11:59 JimmiC wrote:

On August 13 2014 11:28 miicah wrote:
Maokai's a pretty cool dude and we're always happy to see a magical tree beating up dragons and yordles, but having a 100% uptime on Vengeful Maelstrom doesn't offer many windows of opportunity (otherwise known as counterplay!), and we may have overshot slightly on his base power.


I really don't understand Riots logic sometimes, if Maokai's R uptime is a problem why does his W need to be nerfed alongside it? Just change the ult and see what happens, if he is still overplayed or too strong, THEN change the W.



I really don't understand your logic, if the patch is the problem then why complain about it before it goes live? And then if it's still bad and not necessary complain about it.


Because the ult nerf alone may be enough to tone him down. Or alternatively maybe go through with the W nerf (as 5hit pointed out it is super strong, I didn't realise that) and look at the ult next patch. Overall this is just another example of why Riot should really think before they bring such huge changes into the game this close to worlds.



The point I was trying to make is that you are upset that RIOT "jumped the gun" by nerfing 2 things, I was laughing at the irony of you "jumping the gun" and thinking it was too much by reacting to it BEFORE it even went live so you had no chance to try it. You could be right, you could be wrong, just funny that you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

Nowhere did he say the nerf was too much, he just advised for caution
there is no irony here
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
August 13 2014 14:10 GMT
#158
On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:

1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above

Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).

Am I the only one frustrated here?


You played LoL for 1,5 years and still havent noticed this innate concept of LoL or other Moba's ? There is no "final" patch. No endgoal where all champs are viable. Champs rotate in power level. This is imo one of the crucial parts of Moba's success, that keeps the game fresh and fun.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 13 2014 14:39 GMT
#159
is it the same in dota?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 14:44:16
August 13 2014 14:43 GMT
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