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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
August 13 2014 09:55 GMT
#121
On August 13 2014 18:42 TyrantPotato wrote:
tuned into gamescom stream for 2 minutes. Saw a lucian dash INTO 4 people to try kill a full hp elise.

yeah i think ill just read reddit to see the results of this.

Zuna also played in the LCS for a year, don't blame man.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
August 13 2014 09:56 GMT
#122
Anyone else that is worried that Riot has not release any information regarding the bracket stage of world championship?
I swear if samsung blue and white magically ended in the same side of the bracket..
Best Teemo World
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 10:05:39
August 13 2014 10:03 GMT
#123
On August 13 2014 18:42 TyrantPotato wrote:
tuned into gamescom stream for 2 minutes. Saw a lucian dash INTO 4 people to try kill a full hp elise.

yeah i think ill just read reddit to see the results of this.


I actually think this current game is pretty good. Didn't expect Legacy to play/team fight this well. Pretty sure they are considered underdogs going into this thing so it makes the game more interesting.

Back to the LR thread although more interested in the finals tomorrow than these games.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 10:07:36
August 13 2014 10:05 GMT
#124
Privately conducted group draws make perfect sense.

Firstly, not all qualifiers end at the same time. Draws (at least seeds like 1st place NA goes to group A, etc...) needs to be done ahead of time w/out knowing who the teams necessarily are otherwise teams can potentially not have enough time to get their visas in place. Doing an OGN-style group drawing is cool, but ultimately won't work due to time constraints.

Second, if draws are public, that leads to potential match fixing or soft play on the part of qualifying teams. Ex. Say 1st seed NA is known to be placed with Samsung Blue. Then the NA playoff grand finals will consist of the two teams playing like shit and trying to lose so they don't get seeded into the group with Blue.

Also, honestly who cares? No two teams from the same region are supposed to end up in the same group. Plus, since there are 3 teams from each of the four big regions, you will undoubtedly end up with region kills early on the bracket stage no matter what. whether it's KR v. KR, CN v. CN, or West v. West.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
August 13 2014 10:09 GMT
#125
On August 13 2014 18:42 TyrantPotato wrote:
tuned into gamescom stream for 2 minutes. Saw a lucian dash INTO 4 people to try kill a full hp elise.

yeah i think ill just read reddit to see the results of this.

You're missing out. This was one of the more fun and better games I've seen in a while.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 13 2014 10:11 GMT
#126
On August 13 2014 17:34 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:

Although I will say it's kinda hilarious how many champs are quickly surging up to top tier status with simple mana cost reductions. Mao got (mostly) mana cost reductions and is now a must pick/ban. Alistar appears to be going down the same road. Just goes to show how important gating is.


Ahri's getting popular again as well.

I started to ignore Yasuo because I thought they nerfed Q CD to 1.6s but they only changed min cast time >_> Probably gonna start banning him again

There was a rather hilarious quote from a Rioter recently about why Vi isn't played top lane. One of reasons was that she has "meaningful mana costs". I find the usage of the word meaningful absolutely comical.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 13 2014 10:15 GMT
#127
Really? The way her Q works and how all-in she is has much more to do with that (I guess the TP craze would actually help her gank bot and stuff once 6 though), even if you reduced Xin's costs he wouldn't suddenly get played more there (apart from the "novelty" post-buff) and she's worse than him in that regard, with weaker early all-ins.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 10:36:01
August 13 2014 10:29 GMT
#128
On August 13 2014 19:15 Alaric wrote:
Really? The way her Q works and how all-in she is has much more to do with that (I guess the TP craze would actually help her gank bot and stuff once 6 though), even if you reduced Xin's costs he wouldn't suddenly get played more there (apart from the "novelty" post-buff) and she's worse than him in that regard, with weaker early all-ins.

Here's the quote:

She's got a lot of cool gameplay in top lane with the Q charge up and E cleave but, honestly, she's just too fair up there for too long compared to our current crop of top laners. In the early game she has meaningful mana costs, telegraphed attacks, and massive cooldown windows for her passive and all of her spells (P - 18, Q - 18, E - 14 per charge, R- 150).

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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 13 2014 10:32 GMT
#129
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 13 2014 10:39 GMT
#130
Oh. Yeah, the cooldowns and telegraphed parts are much more significant than her mana costs up there. Can't remember if Smash maxes E or Q, he started by maxing E in top lane, and did it in the jungle too but he quickly switched to Q (tbh I was baffled at the amount of people who stuck to E, or even after moving to Q kept maxing E second, at the time, took more than a month even for a bunch of high level people to adapt).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 13 2014 10:57 GMT
#131
I don't even own Yasuo. But I need the new NANOMACHINES SON skin.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 11:30:17
August 13 2014 11:11 GMT
#132
That fucking skin wow holy fuck.

On August 13 2014 19:32 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 13 2014 16:02 krndandaman wrote:
trist, braum, alistar, yasuo, lee, mao

alistar is so fuckin broken atm.


also isn't sona good for mf? I remember sona being my favorite support to play with when playing mf

i think alistar's very strong, but personally don't think he's broken. You can counter pick him pretty easily. I've had a really hard time against Nid and a well-played Maokai. Nasus also "wins" that matchup really hard since Ali can't really bully Nasus out of lane and Nasus effectively gets free farm and free Q stacking in that matchup.

Although I will say it's kinda hilarious how many champs are quickly surging up to top tier status with simple mana cost reductions. Mao got (mostly) mana cost reductions and is now a must pick/ban. Alistar appears to be going down the same road. Just goes to show how important gating is.

RE: Bans, Jax is also a lot easier to shut down now too after the hp nerfs. He can't afford to just go Triforce+Bork every game and be ok. He has to fit in an earlier defensive item, which is also a bit tricky since all the defensive items got nerfed.


dunno about NA but korean ali's are so good. both top and support.
i've gotten wrecked by so many ali's its ridiculous. there's also a whole bunch of ali mains here which kinda surprised me. 7 ping does help with getting the combo 100%.


Same goddamn shit in China atm. Alistar soooo fucking broken strong

How the fuck do you counter pick Alistar because his DISENGAGE combo at level 1 already hits hard. Then after Sheen that DISENGAGE combo becomes closer in damage to a straight nuke.

TF Shiv FH milkcow is unstoppable no kidding.

He cant carry a game but hes definetely god at fighting and disrupting multiple people at once, constantly, while being ridiculously tanky and having enough burst to combo down squishies.
Stop procrastinating
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 13 2014 11:13 GMT
#133
So is Rengar dead again?

+ Show Spoiler +
he's on sale, I bought him yesterday before the patch hit ;;;;;
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
August 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#134
On August 13 2014 20:13 Klonere wrote:
So is Rengar dead again?

+ Show Spoiler +
he's on sale, I bought him yesterday before the patch hit ;;;;;


TBH since they didnt actually touch his other spells I doubt he'll be that bad. Hes still the most violent champ ive ever played
Stop procrastinating
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 13 2014 11:18 GMT
#135
Rango still godly and can solo carry if you are good on him.Like always.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 13 2014 11:25 GMT
#136
akali is getting popular again and makes me want to ban her, such a dumb champion always gets fed on random roams and theres literally nothing u can do but jsut die
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 13 2014 11:26 GMT
#137
Her damages are good, but much like Riven she becomes useless when cc is involved.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 13 2014 11:27 GMT
#138
that could be said about every champion
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 11:44:47
August 13 2014 11:31 GMT
#139
On August 13 2014 20:25 kongoline wrote:
akali is getting popular again and makes me want to ban her, such a dumb champion always gets fed on random roams and theres literally nothing u can do but jsut die


Akali has been hovering around 55-60% winrate in diamond-challenger here in china for a couple months now. Shes definetely fun, and utilizes the most mindgames. No idea why shes not as popular elsewhere.

And no Jesus christ ask any of the challenger Riven mains in china and korea what they think about her.
Shes pretty broken in the right hands, but unlike akali, who can buy FULL TANK with Zhonyas and STILL CARRY...

Obviously this is still all outdated info with the Alistar and maokai top lanes causing general hardening/loosening of stools

Good akalis who play top lane can definetely easily carry themselves out of lower leagues with teleport tho.
Shes does extremely well vs most of the AD melee carry lanes including Red Pot Ignite Fiora, Riven, Jax, Panth etc by simply starting cloth 5 and spamming Q on them, while never proccing it unless E or they all in. Shes definetely annoying as hell and pretty broken if not dealt with properly.
Stop procrastinating
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
August 13 2014 11:54 GMT
#140
RIP DistanceB
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