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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 26 2014 15:54 GMT
#1561
I'm still waiting for Dodgeball Syndra, it's perfect.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 26 2014 15:54 GMT
#1562
On August 27 2014 00:49 Zdrastochye wrote:
Silly skins for silly sweet sweaty suckers.

Not like the moneyless miserable moocher :p
+ Show Spoiler +
If you can't tell by the face, I am joking. I don't buy skins either.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 26 2014 16:01 GMT
#1563
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
August 26 2014 16:05 GMT
#1564
On August 27 2014 01:01 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 00:44 Osmoses wrote:
Definitely Not Blitzcrank Blitzcrank is the best concept in the whole game. The idea itself makes me laugh, like Mundo Mundo and Brolaf.

On that note they need to stop making cool skins and make more silly ones.


mid or feed trundle
yordle hunter garen
DPRK veigar

the possibilities are endless. I want more nonsense silly skins than "SUPER MEGA X CHAMPION"


Wouldnt buy any of these.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 17:34:45
August 26 2014 17:34 GMT
#1565
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 26 2014 17:35 GMT
#1566
On August 27 2014 00:53 Sufficiency wrote:
I also ssupport Battle Bunny Rengar. Hue.

Nope: Bargain Hunter Rengar clearly the best Rengar concept.

Done by the same person who gave us Crazy Cat Lady Yorick
S[o]ul
Profile Joined April 2010
United States39 Posts
August 26 2014 17:59 GMT
#1567
I'm still waiting on Human Nocturne.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 26 2014 18:21 GMT
#1568
just give every champ a theme reversal like cryo brand.

darkness leona, sunlight nocturne. rito pls.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 26 2014 18:21 GMT
#1569
Has anyone here seen Genja's new Ashe build where he gets TriForce for his first item? Just looking at probuilds.net he's won his last five games with Ashe always rushing 2xDorans into Trinity. I want to see this a the game because I'm assuming the the kiting is unreal otherwise why rush a trinity on Ashe? He also pairs it with Alacrity boots in some games. Are there any vods with this build?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22626 Posts
August 26 2014 18:28 GMT
#1570
On August 27 2014 03:21 Ghost-z wrote:
Has anyone here seen Genja's new Ashe build where he gets TriForce for his first item? Just looking at probuilds.net he's won his last five games with Ashe always rushing 2xDorans into Trinity. I want to see this a the game because I'm assuming the the kiting is unreal otherwise why rush a trinity on Ashe? He also pairs it with Alacrity boots in some games. Are there any vods with this build?

Its genya. dont take his builds seriously
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 26 2014 18:33 GMT
#1571
idk sounds really abusive on paper, I kinda like it.
Carrilord has arrived.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 26 2014 18:38 GMT
#1572
On August 27 2014 03:21 Ghost-z wrote:
Has anyone here seen Genja's new Ashe build where he gets TriForce for his first item? Just looking at probuilds.net he's won his last five games with Ashe always rushing 2xDorans into Trinity. I want to see this a the game because I'm assuming the the kiting is unreal otherwise why rush a trinity on Ashe? He also pairs it with Alacrity boots in some games. Are there any vods with this build?


I bet he us using triforce to get damage out of E somehow.

Frankly Ashe's burst is pretty high(Ult has high base damage, +auto crit) and probably higher with triforce (ult, auto, wait for triforce timer w, auto, wait for triforce timer, e, auto)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 26 2014 18:40 GMT
#1573
Volley is 4 sec at rank 5, having a skill like that is typically an indicator for a decent Triforce carrier
Carrilord has arrived.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#1574
Using Ashe's E for a tri-force proc seems like a pretty bad trade-off of free vision for a little more damage in a combo.
I got nothin'...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 26 2014 18:48 GMT
#1575
I am not terribly convinced that triforce is good on Ashe, but it could be workable.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:50:37
August 26 2014 18:48 GMT
#1576
My thoughts were that the phage speed buff would make Ashe a kiting monster in the mid-game (and impossible to disengage from her) and the sheen proc would give Ashe some nice damage with it. I just can't find any vods of him using the build. Does anyone have a link?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 26 2014 18:50 GMT
#1577
On August 27 2014 03:40 Slusher wrote:
Volley is 4 sec at rank 5, having a skill like that is typically an indicator for a decent Triforce carrier


Not really. To be good with triforce you want an ability or set of abilities you can use in 1.5-2 second increments and high base damages on those abilities. Having one ability on a 4 second CD isn't that great. Ideally you also want good AP scaling on the back end as well.

Look at corki for instance. AP scaling on his Q and R both with lower AD scaling. Decent base damage on his R on a 2 second CD so that every triforce proc he has something to proc it that also does damage. Q with very good base damage on an 8 second CD to intersperse between R's.

It could just be that Ashe needs the damage early in order to be relevant in the mid game when her picks are powerful, and triforce accentuates her high burst while also being one of the better single item damage items in the game (since she has no base damage the pen on ghostblade isn't great until you would get LW anyway, and since she has burst the consistent damage of BotRK doesn't scale with her end game well)
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:58:07
August 26 2014 18:57 GMT
#1578
On August 27 2014 03:50 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:40 Slusher wrote:
Volley is 4 sec at rank 5, having a skill like that is typically an indicator for a decent Triforce carrier


Not really. To be good with triforce you want an ability or set of abilities you can use in 1.5-2 second increments and high base damages on those abilities. Having one ability on a 4 second CD isn't that great. Ideally you also want good AP scaling on the back end as well.

Look at corki for instance. AP scaling on his Q and R both with lower AD scaling. Decent base damage on his R on a 2 second CD so that every triforce proc he has something to proc it that also does damage. Q with very good base damage on an 8 second CD to intersperse between R's.

It could just be that Ashe needs the damage early in order to be relevant in the mid game when her picks are powerful, and triforce accentuates her high burst while also being one of the better single item damage items in the game (since she has no base damage the pen on ghostblade isn't great until you would get LW anyway, and since she has burst the consistent damage of BotRK doesn't scale with her end game well)

True, Ashe isn't the ideal candidate for Triforce but she doesn't exactly have good AD ratios either. I would like to know if the utility is worth it over the IE/SS timing. The utility (and sentimental value) is the only reason to pick Ashe anyway.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Merlin the Tuna
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 19:11:19
August 26 2014 18:58 GMT
#1579
Triforce will definitely make you a kiting monster while you're waiting for Frost Shot to rank up. But I can't imagine even perfect Sheen proccing comes anywhere near the damage of a guaranteed IE or Shiv crit on your first auto when you're just trying to pick somebody off in the midgame.

I played against 1 or 2 Triforce Ashes around S3 worlds when everybody was building it on everyone, and it was definitely a nightmare to catch. (Would've been around mid-high Plat at that point.) Even with the nerfs to the item, I expect that'd hold true. Might be a decent pickup if your team comp is already bringing a ton of damage, or if you're just not convinced anyone is going to peel for you.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 26 2014 18:59 GMT
#1580
I use the word decent and you bring up the single best triforce carrier in the game ok.
Carrilord has arrived.
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