I will take a note on this and try it sometimes.

I think it might be OK.

The 4 seconds W is definitely not the limiting factor. TF has such a clusterfuck of different stats that very few champions can use all of them (except maybe Corki). It really depends on what Ashe needs, not TF's efficiency in absolute terms.

Merlin the Tuna

United States57 Posts

August 26 2014 19:06 GMT

#1582

OK is probably the appropriate amount of enthusiasm. You don't love all the raw stats like Corki does, and you don't get to take advantage of the on-hit like Ezreal does. But you're essentially rushing a defensive item that happens to give you reasonably good offensive stats in the process.

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

August 26 2014 19:15 GMT

#1583

Oh snap

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/08/azir-emperor-of-sands-revealed.html?m=1

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

August 26 2014 19:17 GMT

#1584

On August 27 2014 04:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Oh snap

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/08/azir-emperor-of-sands-revealed.html?m=1

Fucking took them long enough! This dude was leaked, what, a year ago?
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/azir-emperor-of-the-sands

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

August 26 2014 19:17 GMT

#1585

On Ashe you should be going double dorans -> avarice -> (BF/Zerks/Zeal) -> (finish IE/Shiv) -> (BotRK/LW) pretty much always. Triforce as a last item over BT/GB/PD/GA is debatable but I'd pretty much always want BT/GB/PD for offense over it and for defense I'd rather have BT/GA/Banshee's. I just can't see situations where I'd want a Triforce over anything in the build except MAYBE a Phantom Dancer, but IE/PD synergy is just too strong imo.

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

August 26 2014 19:21 GMT

#1586

On August 27 2014 04:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Oh snap

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/08/azir-emperor-of-sands-revealed.html?m=1

His kit sounds cool as fuck. Also I really like his overall design.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 26 2014 19:22 GMT

#1587

looks like a windwall 3.0 incoming lol

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

August 26 2014 19:22 GMT

#1588

On August 27 2014 04:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Oh snap

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/08/azir-emperor-of-sands-revealed.html?m=1

That is going to be one crazy as shit tanky support.

Hard CC? Check!

Scales on CDR? Check!

Hard Zone? Check

Engage? Check!

Mobility peel for AD's? CHECK!

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

August 26 2014 19:24 GMT

#1589

Nah. IE -> SotD is what resl men build on Ashe.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

August 26 2014 19:25 GMT

#1590

That champ is so fucking weird

I like it

Anakko

France1934 Posts

August 26 2014 19:29 GMT

#1591

Really coll stuff, love that sand theme.

But
"With these weaknesses in place, we could make the soldiers very strong indeed; imagine if I told you that, given the right setup, your basic attack has 1200 range and hits units in an AOE."

Sounds like fun (no it doesn't)

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

August 26 2014 19:30 GMT

#1592

This guy is going to be really hard to balance, I'm not looking forward to it.

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

August 26 2014 19:33 GMT

#1593

On August 27 2014 04:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
This guy is going to be really hard to balance, I'm not looking forward to it.

He is like Orianna with a dash and more than one ball.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

August 26 2014 19:33 GMT

#1594

On August 27 2014 04:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
This guy is going to be really hard to balance, I'm not looking forward to it.

I'm curious as whether the images can crit or apply onhits, because that changes how you'd build him.

Anakko

France1934 Posts

August 26 2014 19:39 GMT

#1595

On August 27 2014 04:33 Amui wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm curious as whether the images can crit or apply onhits, because that changes how you'd build him.

They say it's a autoattack based mage. Also cdr gives him/his soldiers aspd. I guess Nashor would be good?

Also I wonder how he will interact with lichbane...

Gonna be a lot of weird stuff going on with that guy. And don't get me started on Runaan's hurricane lol

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 26 2014 19:43 GMT

#1596

Wow Valve, can you think of any original hero concepts? Earth Spirit is an exact copy of Azir.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Earth_Spirit

Kingkosi

United States1215 Posts

August 26 2014 19:46 GMT

#1597

New champ is looking azirresistible!

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 26 2014 19:48 GMT

#1598

Eeeeh. On one hand, I love that they're command with radically different stuff. That's one of the things they'd been missing for awhile.
On the other hand, why you keep defensive kits over hard initiation when the game's shown it sorely misses it? ;_;
I wonder what the implications of his passive mean for pushing (he can already do it very safely and reliably through his W as it seems), apparently if he just walks up to a destroyed turret and make his wave meet the enemy wave there, it's efficient auto-pushing and he can just run away and rejoin his team.

Obesechicken, that's not even some effort. Try harder.

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

August 26 2014 19:48 GMT

#1599

On August 27 2014 04:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
Wow Valve, can you think of any original hero concepts? Earth Spirit is an exact copy of Azir.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Earth_Spirit

Those champions aren't anything alike

Ghost-z

United States1291 Posts

August 26 2014 19:49 GMT

#1600

So he spawns melee turrets and ganks like a Jarvan. Sounds like a top lane bully who will get nerfed and still be a very strong jungler. It looks like his soldiers will replace his auto attack and don't actually attack on their own.

Azir ablity preview