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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 11:05:11
August 06 2014 11:04 GMT
#801
As a recent Viktor Player, here are my thoughts:

Q shield needs to be improved. For it to be a truly important ability, one that Viktor can make reactionary plays with, it has to be quicker. Also, the base shield amount should be cleaned up, it's really funky amounts.

W and E are probably alright as is. Maybe a slight cooldown decrease on w, and slightly less mana on E.

ult needs cast time removed and cooldown needs to scale down with levels. In addition, the skill needs to go on cooldown when the skill is cast, not when the storm dissipates. I think this is the only ability which still has this.

Augments are also ripe for changing. Q needs to be able to substitute as a tank item (at least more health, maybe add resists or even spell vamp) and W needs to substitute for a 'support item' (CDR and mana regen). They need to work the same way that e augment acts as a damage substitute. I also like the idea of a 2nd augment upgrade, maybe with a modification to his ult attached (eg 2nd w augment gives his ult a slow). Make the first augment level a bit worse than now, but the second level better.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 06 2014 11:45 GMT
#802
I wonder who decided that Viktor's Q shield starts off at 32 and gains +18 per level with a 26% AP ratio. Like, just make it start at 35, give it +20 per level and a 25% AP ratio. I don't think I've ever had any issue with moving around Viktor's ult, and I build athene's in most games.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 06 2014 11:47 GMT
#803
Problem with viktor is he is a short range burst mage with no mobility and that isn't really very strong in league unless the numbers are just stupid.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 11:47:33
August 06 2014 11:47 GMT
#804
On August 06 2014 20:45 GolemMadness wrote:
I wonder who decided that Viktor's Q shield starts off at 32 and gains +18 per level with a 26% AP ratio. Like, just make it start at 35, give it +20 per level and a 25% AP ratio. I don't think I've ever had any issue with moving around Viktor's ult, and I build athene's in most games.

its because it used to be just a flat % of the total damage. and they changed the tooltip because it was confusing people to have to look for a % instead of a flat number. its still the same % of the total damage but now its just listed differently.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 06 2014 12:13 GMT
#805
Don't know if you guys saw these but 2 cool articles by ongamers:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/just-how-good-is-evil-geniuses-altec/1100-2041/
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/just-how-good-is-team-curse-s-quas/1100-2060/

Think the most interesting part of the articles is looking at Westrice/Double. They both have highest % of team gold and also highest deaths per minute(Well robert has slightly more than double). Kind of shows the issues the teams are having.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 06 2014 12:19 GMT
#806
On August 06 2014 20:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 20:45 GolemMadness wrote:
I wonder who decided that Viktor's Q shield starts off at 32 and gains +18 per level with a 26% AP ratio. Like, just make it start at 35, give it +20 per level and a 25% AP ratio. I don't think I've ever had any issue with moving around Viktor's ult, and I build athene's in most games.

its because it used to be just a flat % of the total damage. and they changed the tooltip because it was confusing people to have to look for a % instead of a flat number. its still the same % of the total damage but now its just listed differently.


Ok, that makes sense.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 06 2014 12:26 GMT
#807
On August 06 2014 21:13 Numy wrote:
Don't know if you guys saw these but 2 cool articles by ongamers:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/just-how-good-is-evil-geniuses-altec/1100-2041/
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/just-how-good-is-team-curse-s-quas/1100-2060/

Think the most interesting part of the articles is looking at Westrice/Double. They both have highest % of team gold and also highest deaths per minute(Well robert has slightly more than double). Kind of shows the issues the teams are having.


I feel like Curse's players overall are just so underrated. There was that poll on Reddit about the top of each position, and Quas got 3% of the votes, placing even behind Seraph. Cop was voted last for ADC. At least people are finally starting to realise that Voyboy isn't the same mid laner as he was in the spring split.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 06 2014 12:33 GMT
#808
Those polls are based on popularity and since crs moved to azubu and they couldnt really compare with tsm/clg anyway took a big hit.Other than cop everyone on crs can be good on a good day but can be incredibly bad on a bad day too.That seems to be the trend with most na teams though lol.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 06 2014 12:36 GMT
#809
Cop's been pretty good recently. I mean come on, he got me 111 points in the final week for fantasy.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#810
Well I wouldn't really use fantasy points as something that defines player power lol.Cop just lacks the playmaking factor.The only adc in lcs that is just straight up worse than cop is imaqtpie.I have never seen cop actually carry his team and be a very big threat.While that doesn't make him a bad player it still makes him underwhelming compared to other players who are able to do that.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 12:58:46
August 06 2014 12:57 GMT
#811
On August 06 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:
Well I wouldn't really use fantasy points as something that defines player power lol.Cop just lacks the playmaking factor.The only adc in lcs that is just straight up worse than cop is imaqtpie.I have never seen cop actually carry his team and be a very big threat.While that doesn't make him a bad player it still makes him underwhelming compared to other players who are able to do that.

He's been pretty impactful on the Kog'maw games he's been playing recently. Also he used to carry games on Twitch last split back when he wasn't really a contested pick. Cop carries games, but the problem is he's definitely had games where he had carry potential and failed to capitalize on it.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 13:09:44
August 06 2014 13:09 GMT
#812
After all those years of playing LoL I just noticed one thing about Amumu's ult :

+ Show Spoiler +
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Those are emoticons :O
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 13:24:54
August 06 2014 13:24 GMT
#813
Quas was really good in spring split too, Curse just had problems everywhere else. He just never really does anything flashy and doesn't die, and teamfights well. Basically what you want from a top laner. (Or what I'd want).
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 06 2014 13:45 GMT
#814
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Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
August 06 2014 14:32 GMT
#815
On August 06 2014 22:45 JimmiC wrote:
Yes Galho, luck is real and happens over short periods of time, but over longer periods it evens out. Not to mention if you focus on something that you have zero control over then you are focusing on something you can't effect which is pointless. Far more productive and it's also FAR more likely a cause is you're own behavior.

It can even out given a long period of time.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 06 2014 14:40 GMT
#816
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 06 2014 15:02 GMT
#817
Sitting there with 500ish RP after spending my first £20 on RP in over 2 years. Wondering what shitty amumu skin to get (emumu/prom king) didnt like either of them, so i asked a friend to mystery trade. He got waterloo MF and i got piltover customs blitzcrank.

Why cant i have this luck in-game too??
Useless wet fish.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 06 2014 15:19 GMT
#818
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 06 2014 15:36 GMT
#819
Jimmi ur quoting and replying to people who posted so long ago i cant even find their posts..leave it alone
Useless wet fish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 06 2014 15:47 GMT
#820
On August 07 2014 00:02 Capped wrote:
Sitting there with 500ish RP after spending my first £20 on RP in over 2 years. Wondering what shitty amumu skin to get (emumu/prom king) didnt like either of them, so i asked a friend to mystery trade. He got waterloo MF and i got piltover customs blitzcrank.

Why cant i have this luck in-game too??


Get your RP to 0
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