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[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 32

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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 05:41:23
July 21 2014 05:40 GMT
#621
IMO the passive boost helps her early-midgame. Lategame still needs a (partial) reversion of the ultimate nerfs to make her see competitive play. Or leave the CD as is, and every time you damage an enemy champ, -1 second on ultimate.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 21 2014 05:54 GMT
#622
LICHBANE RUSH
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
July 21 2014 06:45 GMT
#623
If you go Dring -> chalice, the lux change is a nerf to her passive from level 5~ until she gets more AP. That's pretty meh.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2014 06:50 GMT
#624
On July 21 2014 15:45 zodde wrote:
If you go Dring -> chalice, the lux change is a nerf to her passive from level 5~ until she gets more AP. That's pretty meh.

You shouldn't be going Athene's anyways, even before nerf, and morello's buff.
Morello is usually the superior choice as a first item.
liftlift > tsm
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 07:03:21
July 21 2014 06:59 GMT
#625
On July 21 2014 03:25 Serelitz wrote:
Man, I keep winning promo's to divisions I don't feel I belong. Plat 2 now but I lose lane a lot, mechanics suck comparatively but somehow I keep climbing idk. Anyone else having the same?
Lol, exactly my thoughts. I lose lane a lot (top and mid, in bot I usually rape with lucian), but lategame somehow I know what to do - and there are some people in this game, who got good mechanics, but all they do is fight and fight and fight, not caring about objectives at all. Well, even in lane i know what to do, but my mechanics dont let me.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 21 2014 07:02 GMT
#626
Eh, when I win lane I lose game, lose lane, get hardcarried. It's pretty frustrating because neither of those are fun.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2014 07:04 GMT
#627
all that signifies that you have game knowledge outside of lane. There's nothing wrong with playing lane out like a pussy, and using post-laning phase strength as a way to win.
liftlift > tsm
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 21 2014 07:11 GMT
#628
Doesn't matter if you know what to do if the team just wants to group mid or do wraiths over and over :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2014 07:13 GMT
#629
On July 21 2014 16:11 Osmoses wrote:
Doesn't matter if you know what to do if the team just wants to group mid or do wraiths over and over :p

it's not really hard to just ping and type out instructions.
liftlift > tsm
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
July 21 2014 07:20 GMT
#630
On July 21 2014 16:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 16:11 Osmoses wrote:
Doesn't matter if you know what to do if the team just wants to group mid or do wraiths over and over :p

it's not really hard to just ping and type out instructions.

It's hard to get them to listen though.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 21 2014 07:20 GMT
#631
On July 21 2014 16:20 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 16:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2014 16:11 Osmoses wrote:
Doesn't matter if you know what to do if the team just wants to group mid or do wraiths over and over :p

it's not really hard to just ping and type out instructions.

It's hard to get them to listen though.

it really isn't though...
liftlift > tsm
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
July 21 2014 07:33 GMT
#632
On July 21 2014 16:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 16:20 Fildun wrote:
On July 21 2014 16:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2014 16:11 Osmoses wrote:
Doesn't matter if you know what to do if the team just wants to group mid or do wraiths over and over :p

it's not really hard to just ping and type out instructions.

It's hard to get them to listen though.

it really isn't though...

It really is though...
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
July 21 2014 08:13 GMT
#633
On July 21 2014 15:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 15:45 zodde wrote:
If you go Dring -> chalice, the lux change is a nerf to her passive from level 5~ until she gets more AP. That's pretty meh.

You shouldn't be going Athene's anyways, even before nerf, and morello's buff.
Morello is usually the superior choice as a first item.


I disagree. The mana isn't even comparable and lux burns through mana quite fast.

Still isnt a buff to lux earlygame by any significant margin even if you have an extra amp tome worth of ap. The buff is mid and late game, when you actually start to get some ap, as with any ratio buff.

Now if they had buffed her E ratio or base damage to allow for some better waveclear, lux would be quite strong. Even buffing E and compensating with nerfs to ult damage (full combo staying about the same) would be a big buff.

This passive change isn't that major, but ill still take it over nothing.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 21 2014 08:16 GMT
#634
On July 21 2014 17:13 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 15:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2014 15:45 zodde wrote:
If you go Dring -> chalice, the lux change is a nerf to her passive from level 5~ until she gets more AP. That's pretty meh.

You shouldn't be going Athene's anyways, even before nerf, and morello's buff.
Morello is usually the superior choice as a first item.


I disagree. The mana isn't even comparable and lux burns through mana quite fast.

Still isnt a buff to lux earlygame by any significant margin even if you have an extra amp tome worth of ap. The buff is mid and late game, when you actually start to get some ap, as with any ratio buff.

Now if they had buffed her E ratio or base damage to allow for some better waveclear, lux would be quite strong. Even buffing E and compensating with nerfs to ult damage (full combo staying about the same) would be a big buff.

This passive change isn't that major, but ill still take it over nothing.

Well if an almost top tier champ gets a major buff they would be kind of broken .The passive buff should be enough to make lux see more play because it will attract a lot of people to play her.It still increases her combo burst lategame so its ok.

Morelo is the superior choice only if you are laning vs yasuo and dont feel confident to buy athene .
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
July 21 2014 08:21 GMT
#635
Also when should I just split and when should I go group with my team? I feel like whenever I play the new Lucian, I'd just be splitpushing the sidelanes all day erry day, cause almost no one can catch me. But then 3 people collapse on me, chase me, but my team doesnt do anything in the meantime and blame me. Or another ending to the story is that they get caught 4v5 and blame me for not being with the team :-/
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 21 2014 08:27 GMT
#636
On July 21 2014 17:21 napo wrote:
Also when should I just split and when should I go group with my team? I feel like whenever I play the new Lucian, I'd just be splitpushing the sidelanes all day erry day, cause almost no one can catch me. But then 3 people collapse on me, chase me, but my team doesnt do anything in the meantime and blame me. Or another ending to the story is that they get caught 4v5 and blame me for not being with the team :-/

you shouldnt be splitting without vision
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 21 2014 08:41 GMT
#637
Even whe you split with vision, doesn't mean your team will know how ot use it (also splitting when they're at red instead of pushing out lanes themselves accomplish nothing because they're not in a position to take an objective or force a fight when people come to you).

I remember that game where we started getting ahead so I wanted to take drake (especially bot lane was crushing) but they kept seeing someone and chasing them and killing them, at first we took inner bot, then their blue buff, pretty easily, but afterwards we started not having the waves to do anything off of it. It also meant the enemy team didn't get much farm and we had good momentum, but it was annoying me that whenever we'd be 5 between mid and bot river and I'd ping the drake and move toward it, an enemy would appear bot and 2-3 would immediately chase him.
I ended up going "fuck it", doing our red, dragon, and their blue, which were all sitting there for awhile (been literally 15 minutes I was trying to make them take dragon), while the team sat mid, then out of the blue decided to 4v5 them. I arrived right after th inhib died.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
July 21 2014 08:47 GMT
#638
On July 21 2014 17:16 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 17:13 zodde wrote:
On July 21 2014 15:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2014 15:45 zodde wrote:
If you go Dring -> chalice, the lux change is a nerf to her passive from level 5~ until she gets more AP. That's pretty meh.

You shouldn't be going Athene's anyways, even before nerf, and morello's buff.
Morello is usually the superior choice as a first item.


I disagree. The mana isn't even comparable and lux burns through mana quite fast.

Still isnt a buff to lux earlygame by any significant margin even if you have an extra amp tome worth of ap. The buff is mid and late game, when you actually start to get some ap, as with any ratio buff.

Now if they had buffed her E ratio or base damage to allow for some better waveclear, lux would be quite strong. Even buffing E and compensating with nerfs to ult damage (full combo staying about the same) would be a big buff.

This passive change isn't that major, but ill still take it over nothing.

Well if an almost top tier champ gets a major buff they would be kind of broken .The passive buff should be enough to make lux see more play because it will attract a lot of people to play her.It still increases her combo burst lategame so its ok.

Morelo is the superior choice only if you are laning vs yasuo and dont feel confident to buy athene .


Yeah E damage increase would make lux pretty op, but a boy can dream, right? Lux is in a decent place right now, probably wont see much competative play, but for soloq im actually happy with not having to fight over her in champ select


Im honestly just going grail vs anything cause I always find myself oom in prolonged teamfight/siege scenarios with morello.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 21 2014 10:57 GMT
#639
I usually just splitpush when i get fed up with my team running around like headless chickens. If they aren't doing anything useful regardless of what you're doing, you might as well be doing something useful.
Useless wet fish.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 21 2014 11:09 GMT
#640
Split pushing at lower elo is so brutal. People just have no idea what to do.
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