[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 28

On July 05 2014 02:49 GTPGlitch wrote:
I know mikael's is generally considered a shit item now but wouldn't that go pretty well with maokai's tank/peel role while providing him with enough mana for years?

On July 05 2014 08:48 Alaric wrote:
BotRK doesn't do much when the guy gets 30% damage reduction regardless.
Riven would get wrecked in 1v2 and you're gonna eat it if the enemy team sees you pick that.
Assassins don't work as well because shit like Braum, Thresh, etc. are popular, and because Exhaust transforms "I caught you!" into "I just offered myself to you!", while Heal ensures that they'll live anyway.

Plus try and assassinate Ziggs clearing from 1500 range.

On July 05 2014 09:50 Goumindong wrote:


Braum is actually weak to melee assassinate compared to the other supports, his e does nothing against them and if he doesn't have his ult he has no way to peel whatsoever (plus he has to be standing right on his carry when the assassin comes in and not disabled or he can't do anything in time). The main reason that you don't see a lot of assassins anymore is because they were nerfed significantly and because of the exhaust change to be -50% damage. (Strong against any sort of all in champion)

On July 05 2014 10:07 Slusher wrote:
the bounty system before this patch didn't help assassins either

On July 05 2014 03:56 gtrsrs wrote:
no e3, it's a new riot-made mode coming out soonish. that stream is from the PBE
it looks awesome
reminds me of an old really-well-done WC3 custom map called "impossible bosses" (i think it was called that)
i could never get enough friends together to beat that map (could beat the first of eight[?] bosses with 2 people and a lot of time, but it was impossible after that). hopefully doom bots are a real challenge and as fun as they look to play against

On July 05 2014 12:09 Kinie wrote:
I think some other champs we might see come back to mid are Ahri and maybe Lissandra. The other mages that (in my eyes) are not there yet or aren't right for the meta include: Karthus, Malzahar, Annie, Vel'Koz, and Kat.

Personally I think LB's silence should have been moved to the chains, where it applies when the chains lock, to basically make the LBs want to stick in and have the chain proc again for the silence + snare (tradeoff being you need a boatload of MP for both cast + 2nd proc to apply the silence + snare, and you can't Zhonyas in the middle of the chain application to have it stick.) Yes, it would've made her a gimmicky champ, where if you don't get the chains to proc again she's worthless, but it still keeps the high skill cap there for the pros to try and eek out that last bit of damage before the enemy team blows them up.

On July 05 2014 09:22 GolemMadness wrote:


Who considers mikael's a shit item? It's still core on supports.

On July 05 2014 12:47 GTPGlitch wrote:


Sorry it was my impression earlier that the over boost for mregen made it ungood

On July 05 2014 13:42 Ethelis wrote:
Playing Lux after the Athene's nerfs feels so...icky?

On the other hand, less MR on Athene's = more fun for Diana!

On July 05 2014 14:03 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I take back any of the things I said about Zac jungle being solid. While he's obviously better now than he was recently he was still gutted too much many patches ago. If they either changed his ult back or rebuffed his E he'd be fine, but as it is he just isn't worth it. The other support/tanky junglers are better.