[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 23

On July 04 2014 05:31 Klonere wrote:
runes are total bullshit at low levels anyway, I'm silver 2 with two rune pages and dear god is their some fundamental shit i need to be worrying about that isn't whether i needed hybrid pen or ad quints or whatever the fuck it is

edit: cant you conceivably get to diamond or plat at least with an ap/ad rune page anyway

On July 04 2014 05:31 Klonere wrote:
runes are total bullshit at low levels anyway, I'm silver 2 with two rune pages and dear god is their some fundamental shit i need to be worrying about that isn't whether i needed hybrid pen or ad quints or whatever the fuck it is

edit: cant you conceivably get to diamond or plat at least with an ap/ad rune page anyway

On July 04 2014 05:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
I think the champion pool is large enough but I didn't know there were that many bots on SR now. Riot really needs to get rid of these botters. If they don't then I fear for the growth of the game if new players only face bots. If they have the statistics, then it should be easy to identify bots.

On July 04 2014 06:06 cLutZ wrote:
Bots aren't the problem, the grind is the problem. There is a reason games like WOW don't let you get top tier equipment via things that don't require skill.

On July 04 2014 04:04 Slusher wrote:
in my eyes I just see @lvl30

worthlessnes

or

+2ad

I mean going back to the argument of the casual player I can't be sure what they think but I do remember when I first leveled following my mobofire Merc treads BC rush Trist guide, and buying all the runes it told me to, and being really fucking salty about wasting the ip when I learned more about the game.

On July 04 2014 05:26 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:

Not going Nashor's and AP is just silly. It's so stupidly strong to have an extra AP ratio on your auto attack as Kayle. I don't see the point in aiming for a 4-item timing when you can aim for a more effective 2-item or 3-item timing.


I have received:
2-3 runepages
Trist + Riot Skin
Corki + UFO Skin
Chogath + Nightmare Skin
Alistar + I forget which skin
Pantheon + Artisan Skin
Rammus + Bowser Skin
Kayle + Victorious Skin
Jarvan + Victorious Skin

All for free. I might be missing one or two.

On July 04 2014 08:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
janna has a victorious skin, i think kayle's isn't victorious - everyone got it that played in season 1 (I have it and I didn't play ranked yet in s1)

On July 04 2014 08:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
no I checked it was just playing 10 games in general

didn't have to be ranked

As I said i didn't play ranked in season 1 at all so I can confirm

On July 04 2014 05:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
The problem is the experience of leveling now that a the majority of the players in the game are already level thirty, is terrible. i've played 44 games with 23 of them involving a leveling bot, the others were massive stomps one way or the other involving smurf accounts. so in 44 games i think there have been maybe 2-3 where i was the only peson ruining the experience by smurfing. you don't slowly learn the game the first 50-60 games. you get stomped. if you win a few games in a row you are a level 5-6 account playing vs flash ignite, and if you lose em, you are a lvl 4-5 account playing with 2-3 bots in a game.

It also took less than half the time to hit 30 back when i first leveled. i hit level 30 after maybe 100 normal wins so probably like 200 games. i have about 400 games to go from 44 before i hit 30 now with this new account. and the majority of the levels you gain up to 12 mean nothing, because you can sometimes just run into a stomp where your team is ghost heal x3-4 and they have flash ignite/everything and 5-7 more mastery points, so they are at an even bigger advantage. whats worse is that lvl 30 is a very significant source of power also, at lvl 30 you get your secondary mastery tree filled, you get a 3rd quint. thats a big jump in power you should have to get used to. lets not forget that if you spend 450+ games playing you are looking at having maybe 65000 ip if you consistently win games every day and play over the course of 9-10 months. thats enough for the 16 cheapest champs for 11700, and enough ip leftover to fill your starting 2 rune pages. so you can jump into ranked, but with only access to annie, Ashe, Garen, Kayle, Master Yi, Nunu, Poppy, Ryze, Sivir, Soraka, Warwick and 5 of: the group that includes like morgana, Jax, Janna, Tristana, Nasus. those are probably the 5 best right now from that group. but playing ranked with that makes you so vulnerable to any meta shift at all.

its not even a fun experience for new players from 1-30, You can't say it is anymore at all. The amount of new players complaining about the community and the game in early levels is like 60% of the ones i run into. there are maybe 3-4 new players per game at most. and a lot of smurfs take the games as seriously as ranked, and flame the hell out of people, after all, most of these smurfs are people with banned accounts.

On July 04 2014 09:29 GolemMadness wrote:


Filling two rune pages costs over 50k IP...? With 26k IP at level 30 on my smurf, I filled two rune pages and was able to get two 4,800 IP champions.

On July 04 2014 09:34 GolemMadness wrote:
Armour seals: 1,845
MR glyphs: 1,845
AD quints: 3,075
AP quints: 3,075
Magic pen marks: 3,690
AD marks: 1,845

Total: 15,375