So the glitch where Quill Coat lets you place wards on Dominion means that Katarina is even more fun to play than she was before. I guess Lee too, but wardshunpos > insec

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

July 03 2014 04:27 GMT

#304

Sejuani cleared faster and healthier with Old Golem.

QQ

Miss that % damage too much.

But man her late game is good now. With that % HP with just like Golem, Sunfire, and Liandries she has like 3.8K HP and 220 armor from passive and new golem. Kinda silly. Can like tank 30 tower shots with Golem and a Giants belt. They think they are safe because they used to squishy ass junglers who can only take 1 or 2 shots. Rofl. So tanky.

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

July 03 2014 04:29 GMT

#305

On July 03 2014 13:14 Dusty wrote:

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feral flare was broken because if you got a lead with a strong flare jungler the game was over at all levels of play, not "wood 10"

There is that, but also the issue that it had huge difference for different levels of play. You need to balance for pro play, buy only within the bounds of things being reasonable at all levels.

The other issue is you had to make the ff vs spirit choice extremely early(often in champ select), so it didn't fix the farming vs ganking dilemma, it just put a timer on each strategy based on predetermined choices. This is rather than the ideal scenario where ganking and farming have nearly the same expected value (possibly slightly higher for ganks) on average.

JazzVortical

Australia1825 Posts

July 03 2014 04:46 GMT

#306

On July 03 2014 13:27 iCanada wrote:
Sejuani cleared faster and healthier with Old Golem.

QQ

Miss that % damage too much.

But man her late game is good now. With that % HP with just like Golem, Sunfire, and Liandries she has like 3.8K HP and 220 armor from passive and new golem. Kinda silly. Can like tank 30 tower shots with Golem and a Giants belt. They think they are safe because they used to squishy ass junglers who can only take 1 or 2 shots. Rofl. So tanky.

Sej late game has always been good. Trouble is the early part.

All these tank junglers are getting used now. It's so refreshing. I hope Riot doesn't rush into changes on this one.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

July 03 2014 04:52 GMT

#307

On July 03 2014 13:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow. Champions with leads win games more often. Insightful. How long did they even bother to keep each iteration of feral flare?

The 25 stack feral flare was fucking bonkers. What are you trying to say? That item needed an IMMEDIATE nerf.

Kinie

United States3106 Posts

July 03 2014 05:09 GMT

#308

25 stack FF was pretty OP, I think the 30 stack w/ getting stack on kill/assist is fine, but the other nerfs to it were uncalled for. Now it's not really worth getting unless your team is ok with you AFK farming for the first 15-20 minutes of the game.

Anakko

France1934 Posts

July 03 2014 05:17 GMT

#309

idk, I've seen it on Rengar in OGN, it seemed fine. I've also seen some people build it on jungle Kayle, and I really like the idea.

Kinie

United States3106 Posts

July 03 2014 05:24 GMT

#310

On July 03 2014 14:17 Anakko wrote:
idk, I've seen it on Rengar in OGN, it seemed fine. I've also seen some people build it on jungle Kayle, and I really like the idea.

The reason why Rengar can get away with it in OGN is because the team is willing to take a risk and is aiming for early game kills from Rengar. Like his ganking pre-6 isn't terrible (snare with E, spam abilities and slow them again, make them blow flash or die) and post-6 the ult makes his ganks a ton easier, not to mention you can mostly creep up from nowhere ala Eve and 100-0 them with your full combo.

I_Love_Bacon

United States5765 Posts

July 03 2014 05:56 GMT

#311

On July 03 2014 07:55 Kinie wrote:
So has anyone done Zac jungle yet with the new item? How'd it go?

It seems ok. I wouldn't say he's great or anything but the change to his W is really nice for clearing times. His ganks are still pretty good at CC and surprise but obv his damage is still pretty shallow from the jungle. I see some promise though.

Chrispy

Canada5878 Posts

July 03 2014 06:18 GMT

#312

Wake me... when they buff gangplank.

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

July 03 2014 07:09 GMT

#313

They're not gonna buff him until his remake.

Capped

United Kingdom7236 Posts

July 03 2014 07:15 GMT

#314

T.T gangplank has such good design thou. He only suffers from a lack of mobility which renders him useless :<

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

July 03 2014 07:18 GMT

#315

Uh, and the most RNG ability in the game?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

July 03 2014 07:20 GMT

#316

i mean he did get indirectly buffed with the IE buff and all these changes to make passive laners stronger. Hes in a decent spot top lane now although i think he is best used in the jungle so you can max E first

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

July 03 2014 07:22 GMT

#317

On July 03 2014 16:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Uh, and the most RNG ability in the game?

It'd be less RNG-y if the same amount of cannon balls hit in half the time, and left the second half of the ulti all slow no damage. just by nature of it hitting too fast to dodge everything you'd be guaranteed more damage.