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[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 15

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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 02 2014 22:47 GMT
#281
On July 03 2014 07:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
@Jazz: derp, thanks.
@Sufficiency: I think Simon says Revolver into tank for a reason but it's still situational. I played a game yesterday where I had Sunfire, Visage, FH and with the 40% CDR/Consume, I was surviving every team fight (not that I was ever the main focus of the enemy team). So since I wasn't at risk of dying, what use is a 4th defensive item? So that's why I'm asking the question in general. If I'm sufficiently tanky, what's the best offensive option for that 6th item slot?


IMO the single slot best damage item is Trinity Force. If you build high CDR, you can proc spellblade pretty often.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 02 2014 22:53 GMT
#282
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 02 2014 22:55 GMT
#283
So has anyone done Zac jungle yet with the new item? How'd it go?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 02 2014 23:32 GMT
#284
Why not Banshee's since people would probably get obsessed with your ult and throw spells at you? Or, just because shit like Ziggs is so popular and you're melee anyway, it's not worth building it at it'll always be popped before you need the shield (eg. when you ult)?

Gauntlet sounds like a plan, although I don't feel like calling it a "hybrid" item after Riot destroyed the tanky part of it (and reduced the CDR, dumping some more on Shroud).

Also, what's your playstyle playing Nunu top in the current patch? I assume baron shenanigans are a lot harder what with the nerfs, and pushing towers past the first too, although you can probably still pretty much force the jungler or mid to come to you often if you don't want to group too early.
Do you instead try to get a lead in lane, deny the other guy, then go for a drake (do you take TP or Ignite?) and use Blood Boil to push the outer turrets ring super fast, trying to snowball the game with all that gold if your comp isn't the best (Nunu not the best diver himself for lack of burst/sustained damage output)?
What do you max? Iceball with 1-2 additional points in Consume if you feel like you need it? Do you sometimes run into the jungle just to take a monster's buff?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
July 02 2014 23:44 GMT
#285
Is the Riot server lagging for anyone else? My game is stuck. My friend said his game has no problem and I can relog back on the client but when I click the reconnect button it doesn't reconnect.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
July 03 2014 00:15 GMT
#286
My friend is having a very similar problem with a lot of his games.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 00:31:27
July 03 2014 00:30 GMT
#287
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 03 2014 00:37 GMT
#288
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.


There were always different ways to play top lane Nunu. The teamliquid bandwagon was definitely to copy SmashGizmo's build http://mogwaismusings.com/2012/07/31/developing-solo-top-nunu/
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
July 03 2014 00:49 GMT
#289
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 03 2014 00:53 GMT
#290
On July 03 2014 09:49 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.


Dont say trollpool, you aint his friend.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
July 03 2014 01:03 GMT
#291
On July 03 2014 09:53 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:49 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.


Dont say trollpool, you aint his friend.

All TL-LoLers are friends, pal.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 03 2014 01:09 GMT
#292
On July 03 2014 10:03 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:53 iCanada wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:49 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.


Dont say trollpool, you aint his friend.

All TL-LoLers are friends, pal.

I'm not your pal, guy.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
July 03 2014 01:12 GMT
#293
On July 03 2014 10:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:03 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:53 iCanada wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:49 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.


Dont say trollpool, you aint his friend.

All TL-LoLers are friends, pal.

I'm not your pal, guy.

I'm not your guy, friend.
iremnant3847
Profile Joined June 2012
Taiwan269 Posts
July 03 2014 01:45 GMT
#294
On July 03 2014 10:12 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:09 cLutZ wrote:
On July 03 2014 10:03 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:53 iCanada wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:49 Gahlo wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:30 arb wrote:
On July 03 2014 07:53 Anakko wrote:
As far as I remember, top Nunu use to include Athenes into tank, with visage and randuins probably. Not so much about damage but the extra mana really helps to win lane

It was originally Athenes -> Revolver -> Frozen Heart/Whatever iirc.
youcCould solo baron with Athenes/Revolver/Blue i believe

I still maintain nunu is the absolute best counter when Vlad gets popular tho. It feels like you can deny him so much and at 6 force pool and just walk up and ult him and he will flat out die because theres nothing he can do to stop you lolol.

Dat trollpool flash doe.


Dont say trollpool, you aint his friend.

All TL-LoLers are friends, pal.

I'm not your pal, guy.

I'm not your guy, friend.

I'm not your friend, buddy.
Sorry I had to
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 03 2014 02:13 GMT
#295
Ok, this isn't reddit.
Let's not.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 03 2014 03:20 GMT
#296
this sort of retardation is beyond the scope of reddit imo
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 03 2014 03:54 GMT
#297
That's almost as bad as people who say "Rito plz".
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 03 2014 03:55 GMT
#298
Pshh. If you dissent from banality, it is your duty to suggest a topic of greater merit.

Therefore, I propose that all jungle specific items should be removed from the game as they have continually failed to promote jungle diversity, which was the stated goal.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 03 2014 04:12 GMT
#299
On July 03 2014 12:55 cLutZ wrote:
Pshh. If you dissent from banality, it is your duty to suggest a topic of greater merit.

Therefore, I propose that all jungle specific items should be removed from the game as they have continually failed to promote jungle diversity, which was the stated goal.

Feral flare did. But the wood 10 league was complaining too much.
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 03 2014 04:14 GMT
#300
God, FF was such a good item, the nerf to 30stack was already enough, they had to go all the way and kill it altogether.
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