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Shelke14

Canada6655 Posts

June 26 2014 16:10 GMT

#1501

I love duoQ. It's the reason Ghandi and I are the most bestest buds in the world.

Promises

Netherlands1821 Posts

June 26 2014 16:17 GMT

#1502

I am here to play with my friend when I duo, not to play with an unknown guy who, from the get go, refuses to let me do what I please.

Pretty much the crux of it. You don't want to play with someone who won't let you do exactly what you want to do, while not giving a flying fuck what he or others might want to do.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

June 26 2014 16:20 GMT

#1503

On June 27 2014 01:17 Promises wrote:

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Pretty much the crux of it. You don't want to play with someone who won't let you do exactly what you want to do, while not giving a flying fuck what he or others might want to do.

how did I miss this gem

Maluk

France987 Posts

June 26 2014 16:22 GMT

#1504

On June 27 2014 01:07 loSleb wrote:
If you dodge that's fine, but if you do stupid shit like duo top because someone picked support or ad before you are an asshole and nothing else.

I only duo top when I am with people who instantly rage just because I am duo queueing. There are a ton of people that start flaming the second you write "duo bot pls" and I will absolutely go duo top if people instantly flame me. If people say "pref adc" or something along those lines and lock in that's fine, if I can I will dodge, if I can't I'll just accept it. I'm not saying that you should troll any person that prevents you from going bot, I just think that if a duo lane asks for bot you have no reason to be worried or actively prevent them from doing it.

Since people seem to think I'm the ugliest troll LoL has ever seen I might as well precise that I always add "please" after I call botlane and if I am with allies who go bot because they want to (not purely because they think duo bot is the evil), I accept my destiny although it is a lot less fun.

I just don't understand people who see a "duo botlane" as something bad from the get go.

Edit : and duo top with my duo partners isn't even "trolling" in the first place because more often than not I end up winning when I duo top, and it's a lot of fun.

On June 27 2014 01:20 Nos- wrote:

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how did I miss this gem

There is a difference between doing what I want and doing "exactly" what I want (in your mouth : "being a tyrant", apparently.)

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 26 2014 16:26 GMT

#1505

It is hard to quantify duo queue quality now because they always face other duo queues.

Nemireck

Canada1875 Posts

June 26 2014 16:39 GMT

#1506

On June 27 2014 00:29 JimmiC wrote:
I have a question for those who have been chat restricted, especially more then once, does your rank increase during? and do you have more fun less ragey time?

No, it gets impossible to communicate effectively with your team. "GJ" "Dragon" "Can you ward here?" And suddenly you can only chat once every 4 minutes. Experiencing chat restriction is definitely a incentive not to have to go through it again, but it does serious damage to your ability to work with your team and keep people on the same page.

Then again "Dragon" and "Can you ward here" are often great ways to start flame wars and get reporting for "negative attitude" or "verbal harassment" in SoloQ because everyone has a 12 inch shlong and don't need nobody tellin' 'em what to do.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

June 26 2014 16:39 GMT

#1507

On June 27 2014 01:10 Shelke14 wrote:
I love duoQ. It's the reason Ghandi and I are the most bestest buds in the world.

I think we have, like, a 3-7 record or something. We suck Shelke.

Nemireck

Canada1875 Posts

June 26 2014 16:41 GMT

#1508

On June 26 2014 23:07 JimmiC wrote:

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On June 26 2014 10:15 nafta wrote:

On June 26 2014 07:15 JimmiC wrote:

On June 26 2014 06:56 nafta wrote:

On June 26 2014 06:54 JimmiC wrote:

On June 26 2014 06:47 Nemireck wrote:

On June 26 2014 06:16 TheYango wrote:

On June 26 2014 06:07 JimmiC wrote:
Most of the complaining about duos is the same as the complaining about everything. People seam to forget that the same thing happens on the other team too, and they also forget all the duos that do well.

Duo blaming is just another unfounded excuse to why a persons elo is lower then they think it should be without having to consider their own play and decisions as the reason.

There was a similar discussion with regard to wide MMR variance in stacks in DotA, and honestly, the biggest argument against stacks with a wide rating difference isn't how they affect winrate--but how they affect game quality.

Regardless of whether or not they make you win or lose, having one player that's far above everyone else's level and one that's far below has a higher likelihood of creating stompy games--either because the player who is way better does exceptionally well, or because the player who is way worse does exceptionally poorly. It doesn't matter if it happens to both sides--having games be really stompy because one player carries really hard or because one player feeds sucks regardless of the outcome.

Having the duo on the enemy team is just as bad as having it on your team because a bad, stompy game is a bad, stompy game regardless of which team won. It's just not fun to be in a game like that, even if you're the winner.

Exactly.

It's not about winning or losing because of Duos. The games are just toxic shitfests.

I think the toxicity has nothing to do with the duo. It's more to do with he attitudes of the people in the game. I do think that when people lolnexus or whatever and see a duo they often let these preconceived notions effect the way they play and there attitudes. I'm played lots of games where the duos are fine, medium and normal. In fact way more then the other way. And I'm sure if you did some real statistical analysis you would find the same.

Real problem with duo is it exists.It really shouldn't.Also you should have the option to not have duos in your games.It is pretty retarded that the only way for me to not have duos on my team is to duo myself.

The option to not allow duos would be fine, but in reality people like to play ranked with there buddies and can't always get 5 together for a ranked team. If your diamond 1 and your getting some crazy situations keeping you from challenger I get the frustration. If your gold 4 and you think duo's are messing up your games, you need to look into the mirror and figure out what you can control instead of blaming outside influences that you can't.

Not to mention it's a game, for fun, enjoy it. And you are in control of your own enjoyment, so don't blame others if you're not having a good time.

Well actually these others do ruin my enjoyment.I am a supp/ad player.So I would rather play those 2.So when you consider the fact that most duos are duo bots and I can't get to play what I want and I watch them either 2v8 or play for enemy team that ruins my enjoyment.Generally I don't mind if I am lower pick to just go somewhere else but when some random people who just clicked invite before play start telling me that I should let them bot and if I don't the endless whine is just too much.

Like literally the only reason I have started playing mostly duoq myself is so I don't have to deal with one on my team which is pretty ridiculous.

Don't see how is my division relevant at all.

The relevance of the division is that if you are no where close to going pro who cares about the occasional loss due to a bad duo.

And again you revert to this "Who cares about the loss" argument when nobody is complaining about the loss at all. We're complaining about the environment created by duo Queues. You could win OR lose and still want to throw your computer through the fucking wall because of how shitty and toxic the game was.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 26 2014 16:51 GMT

#1509

i got reported twice in a row by the same duo queue in two games, without any negative comments made, except "my bad" and "i can't come gank right now i'll be there later"

but my team harrassed the duo in both games for being bad, so they reported the whole team :/

EDIT: that and the slight skewing of ranking are the only issues with duos being allowed in solo queue. its just... unfun to play with them even if you do nothing wrong, and they do screw with rankings a bit.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

June 26 2014 16:56 GMT

#1510

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PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 26 2014 17:02 GMT

#1511

On June 27 2014 01:56 JimmiC wrote:

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I think this is in the wrong thread. Shinko or something its called.

if we weren't discussing duo queues and whether or not they provide a negative influence on solo queue i might agree.

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

June 26 2014 17:10 GMT

#1512

I used to really like duo when my friend still played and was diamond, it let me see a new side of the game. Also I didn't really feed more often than normal, because I didn't pick chaps like vayne or Cass.

ghrur

United States3786 Posts

June 26 2014 17:28 GMT

#1513

Vayne is the best. Don't hate on Vayne.

GozoShioda

205 Posts

June 26 2014 17:29 GMT

#1514

The only thing that bothers me about this game is when I see a player in my mmr bracket (plat) consistently make plays/decisions similar to the ones I did when I was stuck in Silver V for 2 years.

That just blows my mind. When I see those type of things it makes me not even want to win or even play in that game anymore. It's okay to make plat mistakes when you are in plat. But, when you are making silver or bronze mistakes in plat then that is just wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

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Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 26 2014 17:40 GMT

#1515

QQ thread that way

Ghost-z

United States1291 Posts

June 26 2014 18:07 GMT

#1516

PBE

Bloodthirster
New Unique Passive: +10% bonus attack damage (Bonus Attack Damage is any Attack Damagefrom buffs,items and masteries)
Unique Passive's Shield value reduced to 50-350 from 50-440
Unique Passive's Shield decay time increased to 25 from 15

These changes should make BT rushing for most ADCs interesting because as soon as you start stacking that shield you'll have an immediate advantage in the lane.