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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I guess she's banned a lot still. | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
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Bam Lee
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FH+Warmog? glacial shroud/wardens mail+ giants belt into finishing the items depending on needs? I dont really wanna build frozen heart on renek cause the mana feels wasted altho i love the CDR. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On June 19 2014 16:29 Dark_Chill wrote: Does anyone use cdr per levels runes? I've been using them quite a bit because with only one 20% cdr item, it gets you really close to 40. I've played around with them a bit. The times when I would use them it was pretty much always better to just use flat and stomp lane harder than taking advantage of an easy lane to let them scale. The level 9 catchup is pretty long. On June 19 2014 19:12 Celial wrote: Now that Elise is pretty much a support jungler (Golem -> CDR Boots -> Sightstone -> Locket build), is it even worth learning her anymore if I never played her before? Once support junglers come back, there are sooooo many other options that I already can play a little... MPenTank Elise still works. On June 19 2014 22:03 Bam Lee wrote: So if randuins is considered dead what are the go to options for tankiness? I am still building randuins for the active and the buildup, but if theres something better i will gladly give it a try. FH+Warmog? glacial shroud/wardens mail+ giants belt into finishing the items depending on needs? I dont really wanna build frozen heart on renek cause the mana feels wasted altho i love the CDR. Continue as before for manaless, for mana it depends largely on how bad you need Omen's active. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 19 2014 22:03 Bam Lee wrote: So if randuins is considered dead what are the go to options for tankiness? I am still building randuins for the active and the buildup, but if theres something better i will gladly give it a try. FH+Warmog? glacial shroud/wardens mail+ giants belt into finishing the items depending on needs? I dont really wanna build frozen heart on renek cause the mana feels wasted altho i love the CDR. Randuins is still really good, dont know where you get its dead lol. You can still come in drop the active on everyone and its just as strong as before | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On June 19 2014 22:34 arb wrote: Randuins is still really good, dont know where you get its dead lol. You can still come in drop the active on everyone and its just as strong as before Alright thought so. The active is just awesome. Just heard from a people nad read in this thread that the removal of the movement speed reduction would make it bad, but i dont see any item that is competing with randuins atm | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On June 19 2014 23:04 Bam Lee wrote: Alright thought so. The active is just awesome. Just heard from a people nad read in this thread that the removal of the movement speed reduction would make it bad, but i dont see any item that is competing with randuins atm The MS isn't the issue, it's the AS debuff hit that bites. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5152 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 19 2014 23:40 Uldridge wrote: Been playing a few Vi games top with Essence Reaver and Bloodthirster, feels really good. Getting a 600-700 shield at lvl 18 is really nice anyone with natural lifesteal or shielding will do pretty well with new BT, and sion... | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium5152 Posts
anyone with natural lifesteal or shielding will do pretty well with new BT, and sion... Yeah I guess and it's cool since essence reaver simply makes Vi's mana problems in lane dissapear, although you do have to be careful untillyou have the item ofcourse, but when you have it, spam dat q&e mang. I haven't been able to try the new bt in a human game. They made it sound like it'd be shitty when you just got it but its shield scaling is pretty linear. To be honest I've never found the BT rework that bad, because now you don't have to build it up for 30 stacks (that's 5 waves man, or less if you kill some jungle camps with it, but it does take a long time, and chances are, if you're in a skirmish or a teamfight you will lose all the stacks). The now 10 more ad from the start makes it actually a stronger item when you buy it, even if it does cost like 300 more gold. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22359 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:40 Uldridge wrote: Yeah I guess and it's cool since essence reaver simply makes Vi's mana problems in lane dissapear, although you do have to be careful untillyou have the item ofcourse, but when you have it, spam dat q&e mang. To be honest I've never found the BT rework that bad, because now you don't have to build it up for 30 stacks (that's 5 waves man, or less if you kill some jungle camps with it, but it does take a long time, and chances are, if you're in a skirmish or a teamfight you will lose all the stacks). The now 10 more ad from the start makes it actually a stronger item when you buy it, even if it does cost like 300 more gold. A problem with BT is the shield decaying. Sure it will be there in lane but lategame I expect the shield will often not be up when a fight starts and your either building it up during the fight, which means you don't get hit and as such probably win the fight anyway, or you take damage right away and it will not build until the fight is already over. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5152 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:43 Gorsameth wrote: A problem with BT is the shield decaying. Sure it will be there in lane but lategame I expect the shield will often not be up when a fight starts and your either building it up during the fight, which means you don't get hit and as such probably win the fight anyway, or you take damage right away and it will not build until the fight is already over. But the BT shield actually stays for quite a while, so it's actually not that bad as you make it sound. And IF the adc positions well he can get a hit off before he gets damaged and gets the shield around when the fight breaks out. I would still think about going BT first on Caitlyn for example even though IE might be a stronger opener now that it has gained 10 ad and lifesteal is back to dorans | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 19 2014 19:12 Celial wrote: Now that Elise is pretty much a support jungler (Golem -> CDR Boots -> Sightstone -> Locket build), is it even worth learning her anymore if I never played her before? Once support junglers come back, there are sooooo many other options that I already can play a little... It's solo queue. You can do whatever you want with her. I like AS elise, with nashors and wit's end, shit is hilarious. I don't think anyone expects AS elise to 100-0 tanks. But it does. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:58 Uldridge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 20 2014 00:43 Gorsameth wrote: A problem with BT is the shield decaying. Sure it will be there in lane but lategame I expect the shield will often not be up when a fight starts and your either building it up during the fight, which means you don't get hit and as such probably win the fight anyway, or you take damage right away and it will not build until the fight is already over. But the BT shield actually stays for quite a while, so it's actually not that bad as you make it sound. And IF the adc positions well he can get a hit off before he gets damaged and gets the shield around when the fight breaks out. I would still think about going BT first on Caitlyn for example even though IE might be a stronger opener now that it has gained 10 ad and lifesteal is back to dorans Dont get why people are saying the shield has no use, literally every game ive played tonight(diamond/plat mixtures) the adcs have got bt and the shield is always up pre fight lol. Not having to stack it but getting a 430 hp shield is fucking great. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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