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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 16:51:05
June 02 2014 16:50 GMT
#1621
On June 03 2014 01:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 01:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 03 2014 01:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 03 2014 01:25 Jek wrote:
So, I've been spamming Veigar over the last few weeks. Why isn't he played more in high Elo? Dat damage and teamfight power.

edit: Reason I'm asking is, I don't find any match ups unwinable - the ones that can survive/go equal you outscale anyway or offer more team utility with the AoE stun (which honestly is an ultimate on low CD).

There are a couple challenger level veiger. Nyjacky and dabox. Veigar still vulnerable to being caught out by shit like rengar, and can be dove on easily if you bait out his stun. He doesn't roam well, nor does he waveclear as fast as current meta counterparts. His short range and low mobility usually leaves him to only spam abilities on frontliners (unless he has flash up). Banshees is overwhelmingly the popular mr choice, also leaving him a sad sad yordle when it comes to late game. That being said. He's got some sick damages.

Veigar's probably one of the few APs that can reverse one shot Rengar if he fails though.

Maybe the second you see the '!' mark you put stun right on top of your model. So only 1 q procs on you? Counterplay discovered!


I do believe as soon as you see the marker you can drop a stun out top of yourself/to block off a path where rengar is coming and walk away - I don't really have much experience actually doing so though.

If he leaps through the stun he gets stunned before he lands.

You'd kinda need to know where he is coming from, and be really ready to react to his ult... You don't have much time.

Rengar will die if he goes in on someone not you, while you are near though.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 02 2014 17:03 GMT
#1622
On June 03 2014 01:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 01:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 03 2014 01:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 03 2014 01:25 Jek wrote:
So, I've been spamming Veigar over the last few weeks. Why isn't he played more in high Elo? Dat damage and teamfight power.

edit: Reason I'm asking is, I don't find any match ups unwinable - the ones that can survive/go equal you outscale anyway or offer more team utility with the AoE stun (which honestly is an ultimate on low CD).

There are a couple challenger level veiger. Nyjacky and dabox. Veigar still vulnerable to being caught out by shit like rengar, and can be dove on easily if you bait out his stun. He doesn't roam well, nor does he waveclear as fast as current meta counterparts. His short range and low mobility usually leaves him to only spam abilities on frontliners (unless he has flash up). Banshees is overwhelmingly the popular mr choice, also leaving him a sad sad yordle when it comes to late game. That being said. He's got some sick damages.

Veigar's probably one of the few APs that can reverse one shot Rengar if he fails though.

Maybe the second you see the '!' mark you put stun right on top of your model. So only 1 q procs on you? Counterplay discovered!

TL saves the world again!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 17:32:43
June 02 2014 17:21 GMT
#1623


THE FUCKING HYPE.

Also, admins/mods add clg streams to side bar?
liftlift > tsm
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 02 2014 17:44 GMT
#1624
On June 03 2014 02:21 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlchDzIQNM

THE FUCKING HYPE.

Also, admins/mods add clg streams to side bar?


LOL

That was fucking awesome. About fucking time they came/came back to twitch.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 02 2014 17:51 GMT
#1625
On June 03 2014 02:44 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 02:21 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlchDzIQNM

THE FUCKING HYPE.

Also, admins/mods add clg streams to side bar?


LOL

That was fucking awesome. About fucking time they came/came back to twitch.

directed by...
MICHAEL BAY
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 02 2014 17:53 GMT
#1626
On June 03 2014 02:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 02:44 Disengaged wrote:
On June 03 2014 02:21 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlchDzIQNM

THE FUCKING HYPE.

Also, admins/mods add clg streams to side bar?


LOL

That was fucking awesome. About fucking time they came/came back to twitch.

directed by...
MICHAEL BAY

inb4 Nintendo lawsuit.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 18:24:41
June 02 2014 18:03 GMT
#1627
On June 02 2014 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
the skarner rework is a disaster not on a power level, its a disaster because they didnt even make him more fun to play, probably less fun to play. you still just spam all your skills and either are stronger then them or weaker then them and some one wins in 1v1. in a teamfight you run at the other team and die immediately because you have no ability to tank anything and your base stats suck dick in addition to that.


this post is ignorant as shit becaues skarners base stats are actually insane, running at people in a teamfight is what you do as a melee if you completely ignore all your skills such as the ridiculously powerful flash ult initaiting combo, and "you just spam your skills and then whoever is stronger wins 1v1" is the most fucking inane statement, because all it says is thatsomeone fucking wins in a 1 versus 1 what are you even trying to say
imaginary temp ban

On June 02 2014 11:57 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
the skarner rework is a disaster not on a power level, its a disaster because they didnt even make him more fun to play, probably less fun to play. you still just spam all your skills and either are stronger then them or weaker then them and some one wins in 1v1. in a teamfight you run at the other team and die immediately because you have no ability to tank anything and your base stats suck dick in addition to that.


This true yes, but he is also just bad. He has literally zero staying power.


completely unbacked up statement followed with statement that makes no sense at all but is probably bad. Do you mean jungle sustain? because he's got one of the best clears and loses little hp and mana.
imaginary temp ban

On June 02 2014 14:08 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't get why zyra keeps getting picked when she's so slow and squishy and they go pure AP on her. In b4 someone tries to explain by listing her strengths.



setting up a loaded as shit question by presenting your view of her weaknesses and then passive agressively predicting that someone presents her strengths.
zyra has retarded amounts of damage and CC. Support zyras often top damage done and if broken watch can carry with you a champion you know its fucking strong
id imaginary temp ban you but you're a cool dude so ill let imaginary nepotism take control here


aka Teutonica
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 02 2014 18:31 GMT
#1628
Doublelift streams, instantly 46k viewers, and it's only climbing.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 02 2014 18:35 GMT
#1629
On June 03 2014 03:31 Kinie wrote:
Doublelift streams, instantly 46k viewers, and it's only climbing.

if he hits 1000 subs, he'll stream for rest of day shirtless.
liftlift > tsm
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 02 2014 18:40 GMT
#1630
what i hate about new skarner is the E is so clunky, and you can't E them while they are ulted
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 02 2014 18:51 GMT
#1631
That is an interesting point. Why can't we usw QWE while ulting?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 02 2014 18:56 GMT
#1632
You can Q but you can't use the rest.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 02 2014 18:58 GMT
#1633
I'm wondering when the hell the Gangplank rework is coming. At first I just wanted them to leave him alone but I'm starting to get really curious about what they'll do to him.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 02 2014 18:58 GMT
#1634
Oh really? This is after the rework? I didn't know this before.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 02 2014 19:02 GMT
#1635
Haven't played him post-rework yet, but before I did play a handful of games (but no more) and I remember you could Q them, but not auto them, during your ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 02 2014 19:10 GMT
#1636
Damn. I played so many Skarner games in S2 and never knew that.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
June 02 2014 19:23 GMT
#1637
Fizz absolutely demolishes Veigar IMO
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 02 2014 19:44 GMT
#1638
On June 03 2014 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 03:31 Kinie wrote:
Doublelift streams, instantly 46k viewers, and it's only climbing.

if he hits 1000 subs, he'll stream for rest of day shirtless.

How come male pros can stream shirtless but females can't? Rito stahp the inequal rights pls!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
June 02 2014 19:54 GMT
#1639
On June 03 2014 02:21 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlchDzIQNM

THE FUCKING HYPE.

Also, admins/mods add clg streams to side bar?

rip the azooboo money
$$$$$$
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 02 2014 20:05 GMT
#1640
You can still Q during Skarner's ult. I thought everyone knew that? >_>
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