On June 03 2014 01:25 Jek wrote: So, I've been spamming Veigar over the last few weeks. Why isn't he played more in high Elo? Dat damage and teamfight power.
edit: Reason I'm asking is, I don't find any match ups unwinable - the ones that can survive/go equal you outscale anyway or offer more team utility with the AoE stun (which honestly is an ultimate on low CD).
There are a couple challenger level veiger. Nyjacky and dabox. Veigar still vulnerable to being caught out by shit like rengar, and can be dove on easily if you bait out his stun. He doesn't roam well, nor does he waveclear as fast as current meta counterparts. His short range and low mobility usually leaves him to only spam abilities on frontliners (unless he has flash up). Banshees is overwhelmingly the popular mr choice, also leaving him a sad sad yordle when it comes to late game. That being said. He's got some sick damages.
Veigar's probably one of the few APs that can reverse one shot Rengar if he fails though.
Maybe the second you see the '!' mark you put stun right on top of your model. So only 1 q procs on you? Counterplay discovered!
I do believe as soon as you see the marker you can drop a stun out top of yourself/to block off a path where rengar is coming and walk away - I don't really have much experience actually doing so though.
If he leaps through the stun he gets stunned before he lands.
You'd kinda need to know where he is coming from, and be really ready to react to his ult... You don't have much time.
Rengar will die if he goes in on someone not you, while you are near though.
On June 03 2014 01:25 Jek wrote: So, I've been spamming Veigar over the last few weeks. Why isn't he played more in high Elo? Dat damage and teamfight power.
edit: Reason I'm asking is, I don't find any match ups unwinable - the ones that can survive/go equal you outscale anyway or offer more team utility with the AoE stun (which honestly is an ultimate on low CD).
There are a couple challenger level veiger. Nyjacky and dabox. Veigar still vulnerable to being caught out by shit like rengar, and can be dove on easily if you bait out his stun. He doesn't roam well, nor does he waveclear as fast as current meta counterparts. His short range and low mobility usually leaves him to only spam abilities on frontliners (unless he has flash up). Banshees is overwhelmingly the popular mr choice, also leaving him a sad sad yordle when it comes to late game. That being said. He's got some sick damages.
Veigar's probably one of the few APs that can reverse one shot Rengar if he fails though.
Maybe the second you see the '!' mark you put stun right on top of your model. So only 1 q procs on you? Counterplay discovered!
On June 02 2014 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote: the skarner rework is a disaster not on a power level, its a disaster because they didnt even make him more fun to play, probably less fun to play. you still just spam all your skills and either are stronger then them or weaker then them and some one wins in 1v1. in a teamfight you run at the other team and die immediately because you have no ability to tank anything and your base stats suck dick in addition to that.
this post is ignorant as shit becaues skarners base stats are actually insane, running at people in a teamfight is what you do as a melee if you completely ignore all your skills such as the ridiculously powerful flash ult initaiting combo, and "you just spam your skills and then whoever is stronger wins 1v1" is the most fucking inane statement, because all it says is thatsomeone fucking wins in a 1 versus 1 what are you even trying to say imaginary temp ban
On June 02 2014 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote: the skarner rework is a disaster not on a power level, its a disaster because they didnt even make him more fun to play, probably less fun to play. you still just spam all your skills and either are stronger then them or weaker then them and some one wins in 1v1. in a teamfight you run at the other team and die immediately because you have no ability to tank anything and your base stats suck dick in addition to that.
This true yes, but he is also just bad. He has literally zero staying power.
completely unbacked up statement followed with statement that makes no sense at all but is probably bad. Do you mean jungle sustain? because he's got one of the best clears and loses little hp and mana. imaginary temp ban
On June 02 2014 14:08 zulu_nation8 wrote: I don't get why zyra keeps getting picked when she's so slow and squishy and they go pure AP on her. In b4 someone tries to explain by listing her strengths.
setting up a loaded as shit question by presenting your view of her weaknesses and then passive agressively predicting that someone presents her strengths. zyra has retarded amounts of damage and CC. Support zyras often top damage done and if broken watch can carry with you a champion you know its fucking strong id imaginary temp ban you but you're a cool dude so ill let imaginary nepotism take control here
I'm wondering when the hell the Gangplank rework is coming. At first I just wanted them to leave him alone but I'm starting to get really curious about what they'll do to him.
Haven't played him post-rework yet, but before I did play a handful of games (but no more) and I remember you could Q them, but not auto them, during your ult.
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