EPTI mean mimic q and e still does 1.0 ap ratio after nerfs if you get both parts of the spells. Thats pretty okay for an ultimate on that kind of cd...
[Patch 4.8] RIP Pantheon General Discussion - Page 16
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
I mean mimic q and e still does 1.0 ap ratio after nerfs if you get both parts of the spells. Thats pretty okay for an ultimate on that kind of cd... | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 24 2014 11:34 zodde wrote: Leblanc ult damage nerfs hardly means she will be olaf'd? Certainly wont stop her from killing people in a single combo, it will just delay it a bit later into the game. I mean mimic q and e still does 1.0 ap ratio after nerfs if you get both parts of the spells. Thats pretty okay for an ultimate on that kind of cd... those nerfs are really really really hefty. They cut her ultimate damage in half... I suspect/hope that they'll continue to tune the changes before they go to live, but a 50% damage decrease is going to really really hurt a champion. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On May 24 2014 13:00 Ryuu314 wrote: those nerfs are really really really hefty. They cut her ultimate damage in half... I suspect/hope that they'll continue to tune the changes before they go to live, but a 50% damage decrease is going to really really hurt a champion. I think it will bring her in line with other assassins except khazix, who they are also nerfing big time soon, where they have to land all of their abilities on a single target to assassinate them. As of right now hitting both ends of the chain is usually not necessary to guarantee the kill unless you are behind or going after a tank. I think this is a conscious effort because it is exactly the problem they had with fizz. In his prime fizz could ult/dash/trident to insta gib somebody and then troll poll away because he didnt need the damage. This was considered toxic and changed so that now fizz has to use all 4 abilities to secure kills unless WAY ahead. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On May 24 2014 13:41 Velocirapture wrote: I think it will bring her in line with other assassins except khazix, who they are also nerfing big time soon, where they have to land all of their abilities on a single target to assassinate them. As of right now hitting both ends of the chain is usually not necessary to guarantee the kill unless you are behind or going after a tank. I think this is a conscious effort because it is exactly the problem they had with fizz. In his prime fizz could ult/dash/trident to insta gib somebody and then troll poll away because he didnt need the damage. This was considered toxic and changed so that now fizz has to use all 4 abilities to secure kills unless WAY ahead. what? most of the damage comes from QW and their mimics, chain doesn't really do damage it's there for the slow and root and sometimes to just proc Q. I mean LB did a lot of damage but this kind of nerf is a bit heavy handed. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 24 2014 14:18 TheLink wrote: I wish they wouldn't gut LeBlanc. She's exactly what an assassin in LoL should be. None of the Zed style splitpush/dive/waveclear/sustain/fill-every-role shit. LeBlanc at least plays the game by finding picks and sniping squishy targets in teamfights. But she also does stupid amounts of AoE dmg. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Currently, it's just far too easy for Leblanc to clear waves AND put a ton of pressure on enemy champions all at the same time. If Riot increases her W cooldown, Leblancs will have to make a choice between harassing the enemy champion or potentially losing cs and getting stuck at their tower. | ||
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aurawashere
Canada454 Posts
well it would still be a 1 point wonder... but it would require her to fully combo someone instead of q/r/w = death | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On May 24 2014 16:17 Sufficiency wrote: I think Riot should have just made LeBlanc's W do reduced damage vs MINIONS and see what happens. agree with this. Reinforce the identity of Leblanc being a champion with a delete key if you get her farmed.......gl getting her farmed. At the moment there is little difference between her clear speeds and any other midlaner. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 24 2014 14:23 wei2coolman wrote: But she also does stupid amounts of AoE dmg. ??? hitting more than one person with distortion is less than ideal unless your like Shiphtur vs. CoL levels of far ahead, it's also her lowest damage mimic. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 24 2014 16:26 TyrantPotato wrote: agree with this. Reinforce the identity of Leblanc being a champion with a delete key if you get her farmed.......gl getting her farmed. At the moment there is little difference between her clear speeds and any other midlaner. reverting to her old ult might accomplish this, riot would rather do anything other than that though I'm sure Browsing the red post collection on S@20: -Kayle range nerf already being backpeddled heavily -LB Damage nerf likely too strong but mimic damage is still their plan for the time being -Panth's numbers in ranked look like the ult nerf hasen't hurt him, but he still needs some love to compensate in some other way (holy doublespeak) | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 24 2014 17:45 NeoIllusions wrote: Just like beta TF, amirite? when games came down to who could lock gold card in faster rofl | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
is it latency or is there some secret to ward -> insta w? | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 24 2014 21:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Smartcast everything I was smartcasting both but it seemed like latency was stopping me from Ward->W instantly, or maybe im just not fast enough yet idk | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On May 24 2014 21:06 arb wrote: I was smartcasting both but it seemed like latency was stopping me from Ward->W instantly, or maybe im just not fast enough yet idk There's a cast time on wards so you have to be pro. If you mash Ward->W then you have to W again so delay your W a tiny bit and then it'll be very smooth. | ||
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