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Riot announced an LCS Fantasy League system today. They will host it but an individual has to find a league of 4, 6 or 8 players on his own. That's why the TL.LoL community should try to assemble its members to play together and help each other to create leagues.
Unlike the good ol' TL Fantasy where you get a budget and can select whatever player you want, Riot's fantasy league is closer to what some might know from NFL fantasy games.
If you know how this works you can skip ahead, if not:
+ Show Spoiler [Rules] +
The Draft
I have no idea how the draft order is determined yet. The participants pick LCS players turnwise. The draft is in "snake-mode". In a 8-player league Player #1 gets the 1st pick, 16th pick, the 17th pick and so on. Player #2 gets the 2nd pick, the 15th pick, the 18th pick, ... . Player #8 gets the 8th pick, 9th pick, ... .
One LCS player or team can only be picked once. Each player is unique in the whole league.
There's no information yet if the draft is live or if you can creater an auto-pick order or what happens if one league member doesn't show up.
The roster
Each team consists of:
"7 Starters:
1 Top
1 Jungler
1 Mid
1 AD Carry
1 Support
1 Flex player (an extra player from any position)
1 Team (like Cloud 9 or Fnatic)
3 Alternate players (i.e. subsitutes)"
You can switch positions every week and can pick up players who are currently teamless. There is no information yet if there's some kind of waiver system.
Scoring
"Each week you’ll be matched against another team in your league and earn points based on your starting line-up’s performance. Remember, only starters earn points for your team; alternates don’t contribute to your matchup total.
LCS player:
Kills: 2 pts
Deaths: -0.5 pts
Assists: 1.5 pts
CS: 0.01 pts
Triple Kill: 2 bonus pts
Quadra Kill: 5 bonus pts
Penta Kill: 10 bonus pts
10+ Kills / Assists: 2 bonus pts"
LCS Teams:
First Blood: 2 pts
Dragons taken: 1 pt
Barons taken: 2 pts
Towers destroyed: 1 pt
Victory: 2 pts
There is no information if you can join and manage multiple leagues. I guess we are restricted to use the LoL accounts and are therefore restricted to our servers.
"Managing" a league is probably only about creating it and inviting players via e-mail, link or name+password.
Let's check who's interested in playing. You can provide your server if you're willing to manage and probably your prefered draft time. I have no idea how this will work out and I hope you can manage the most on your own. We have to be fast though as the LCS starts in five days. I'll try to edit the OP accordingly.
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I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.
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On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.
With how volatile the scene tends to be, i doubt data from last season would be that useful. Compare the first and second halves of the splits, and half the teams did 180's in terms of success.
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On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.
If you use past data for Vulcun, you are gonna have a bad time yo.
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On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.
The past data doesn't really matter, imo. The most important factor in this game is if your player is on the winning team because winning and personal stats are way more correlated than in other fantasy sports like football.
There are articles at lolesports.com which discuss the fantasy value of a few players.
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Are there trades implemented in the game? How do playoffs work?
I definitely want to play though, NA server, IGN Sandster.
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There are trades, it says it on the website... read it?
Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule?
Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players.
Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.
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On May 16 2014 03:58 Lonyo wrote:There are trades, it says it on the website... read it? Show nested quote +Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule? Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players. Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.
It's not the best, but I don't think it's that bad considering the full scoring:
HOW LCS TEAMS ARE SCORED
First Blood: 2 pts
Dragons taken: 1 pt
Barons taken: 2 pts
Towers destroyed: 1 pt
Victory: 2 pts
I don't think it's unreasonable to have victories worth 2 points considering in-game objective give points which generally favors the winning teams anyways.
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Yeah but it means if you have a mega comeback somehow after being down dragons and barons, e.g. slugging it out until 80k gold, you don't really get rewarded for the team grinding out a win.
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
So when we're gonna be available to build the team? Also do you need an invite or ?
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On May 16 2014 04:25 739 wrote:
So when we're gonna be available to build the team? Also do you need an invite or ?
No idea. Soon(TM)
You probably need an invite by a league manager or have to create a league for yourself and invite a minimum of 3 players.
That said currently the fantasy page is blank white and sais: {"region":"EUW"}
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On May 16 2014 03:58 Lonyo wrote:There are trades, it says it on the website... read it? Show nested quote +Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule? Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players. Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.
Teams will score comparatively less than individual players, but that doesn't mean team choice is irrelevant. There'll probably be gaps between great teams and mediocre teams. For example, pick up a team like C9 that's usually on top of their objectives and wins a lot and you can get probably ~10+ more points than someone who picks a team who wins less.
Just going off of LCS Spring, C9's 24 wins and Curse's 11 wins makes a 13 win difference and a consequent 26 point difference. That's not even including all the little points related to objectives involved.
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United States23745 Posts
Really interested to see the actual scoring system
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Hope we will put together leagues of TL guys. Cause I have no friends who care about LCS. :D
Btw there is also this: http://fantasy.eslgaming.com/
For people who want to play in a global league.
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On May 16 2014 00:54 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better. With how volatile the scene tends to be, i doubt data from last season would be that useful. Compare the first and second halves of the splits, and half the teams did 180's in terms of success.
No this is not what I want to know.
I mostly want to know which role to pick from the wildcard position... would a midlaner get more point than a top laner, for example.
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Here's the info for last split for those interested.
http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/2014/split1/stats
I'm guessing this won't be like our Fantasy worlds?
Will there be a draft? if not, TSM and CLG will play a pretty big role since C9 players would be the most expensive.
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United States23745 Posts
I was really confused about the 8 player leagues until I remembered that you can draft from NA and EU lol.
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United States37500 Posts
Site is live, you can form leagues now.
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