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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 16:11:53
May 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#1


http://fantasy.lolesports.com/


Riot announced an LCS Fantasy League system today. They will host it but an individual has to find a league of 4, 6 or 8 players on his own. That's why the TL.LoL community should try to assemble its members to play together and help each other to create leagues.

Unlike the good ol' TL Fantasy where you get a budget and can select whatever player you want, Riot's fantasy league is closer to what some might know from NFL fantasy games.

If you know how this works you can skip ahead, if not:
+ Show Spoiler [Rules] +

The Draft
I have no idea how the draft order is determined yet. The participants pick LCS players turnwise. The draft is in "snake-mode". In a 8-player league Player #1 gets the 1st pick, 16th pick, the 17th pick and so on. Player #2 gets the 2nd pick, the 15th pick, the 18th pick, ... . Player #8 gets the 8th pick, 9th pick, ... .
One LCS player or team can only be picked once. Each player is unique in the whole league.
There's no information yet if the draft is live or if you can creater an auto-pick order or what happens if one league member doesn't show up.

The roster
Each team consists of:
"7 Starters:
1 Top
1 Jungler
1 Mid
1 AD Carry
1 Support
1 Flex player (an extra player from any position)
1 Team (like Cloud 9 or Fnatic)
3 Alternate players (i.e. subsitutes)"

You can switch positions every week and can pick up players who are currently teamless. There is no information yet if there's some kind of waiver system.

Scoring
"Each week you’ll be matched against another team in your league and earn points based on your starting line-up’s performance. Remember, only starters earn points for your team; alternates don’t contribute to your matchup total.

LCS player:
Kills: 2 pts
Deaths: -0.5 pts
Assists: 1.5 pts
CS: 0.01 pts
Triple Kill: 2 bonus pts
Quadra Kill: 5 bonus pts
Penta Kill: 10 bonus pts
10+ Kills / Assists: 2 bonus pts"

LCS Teams:
First Blood: 2 pts
Dragons taken: 1 pt
Barons taken: 2 pts
Towers destroyed: 1 pt
Victory: 2 pts


There is no information if you can join and manage multiple leagues. I guess we are restricted to use the LoL accounts and are therefore restricted to our servers.
"Managing" a league is probably only about creating it and inviting players via e-mail, link or name+password.

Let's check who's interested in playing. You can provide your server if you're willing to manage and probably your prefered draft time. I have no idea how this will work out and I hope you can manage the most on your own. We have to be fast though as the LCS starts in five days. I'll try to edit the OP accordingly.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2014 13:33 GMT
#2
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 15 2014 15:54 GMT
#3
On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.

With how volatile the scene tends to be, i doubt data from last season would be that useful. Compare the first and second halves of the splits, and half the teams did 180's in terms of success.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 15 2014 16:06 GMT
#4
I want to play this.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 15 2014 16:14 GMT
#5
On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.

If you use past data for Vulcun, you are gonna have a bad time yo.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 15 2014 17:16 GMT
#6
On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.


The past data doesn't really matter, imo. The most important factor in this game is if your player is on the winning team because winning and personal stats are way more correlated than in other fantasy sports like football.

There are articles at lolesports.com which discuss the fantasy value of a few players.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 15 2014 18:07 GMT
#7
Are there trades implemented in the game? How do playoffs work?

I definitely want to play though, NA server, IGN Sandster.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
May 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#8
There are trades, it says it on the website... read it?
Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule?


Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players.
Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.

HOLY CHECK!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 19:19:23
May 15 2014 19:19 GMT
#9
On May 16 2014 03:58 Lonyo wrote:
There are trades, it says it on the website... read it?
Show nested quote +
Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule?


Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players.
Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.



It's not the best, but I don't think it's that bad considering the full scoring:

HOW LCS TEAMS ARE SCORED

First Blood: 2 pts
Dragons taken: 1 pt
Barons taken: 2 pts
Towers destroyed: 1 pt
Victory: 2 pts

I don't think it's unreasonable to have victories worth 2 points considering in-game objective give points which generally favors the winning teams anyways.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
May 15 2014 19:25 GMT
#10
Yeah but it means if you have a mega comeback somehow after being down dragons and barons, e.g. slugging it out until 80k gold, you don't really get rewarded for the team grinding out a win.
HOLY CHECK!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 15 2014 19:25 GMT
#11
So when we're gonna be available to build the team? Also do you need an invite or ?
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#12
On May 16 2014 04:25 739 wrote:
So when we're gonna be available to build the team? Also do you need an invite or ?


No idea. Soon(TM)

You probably need an invite by a league manager or have to create a league for yourself and invite a minimum of 3 players.

That said currently the fantasy page is blank white and sais:
{"region":"EUW"}
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 15 2014 20:50 GMT
#13
On May 16 2014 03:58 Lonyo wrote:
There are trades, it says it on the website... read it?
Show nested quote +
Every week, you can change your starting lineup for your roster. Who’s on a hot streak, who’s got a difficult schedule?


Team scoring seems really bad though, especially 2 points for a victory... basically your team choice is irrelevant due to the scoring for players.
Player Kill = 2 pts. Team Victory = 2 pts.



Teams will score comparatively less than individual players, but that doesn't mean team choice is irrelevant. There'll probably be gaps between great teams and mediocre teams. For example, pick up a team like C9 that's usually on top of their objectives and wins a lot and you can get probably ~10+ more points than someone who picks a team who wins less.

Just going off of LCS Spring, C9's 24 wins and Curse's 11 wins makes a 13 win difference and a consequent 26 point difference. That's not even including all the little points related to objectives involved.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 15 2014 20:52 GMT
#14
Really interested to see the actual scoring system
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 21:03:04
May 15 2014 21:02 GMT
#15
Hope we will put together leagues of TL guys. Cause I have no friends who care about LCS. :D

Btw there is also this: http://fantasy.eslgaming.com/

For people who want to play in a global league.
Off-season = best season
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2014 21:05 GMT
#16
On May 16 2014 00:54 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 22:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if there is LCS spring split data available (kda, first blood, objectives, etc per player per game). It is easy to analyze and see which choices are better.

With how volatile the scene tends to be, i doubt data from last season would be that useful. Compare the first and second halves of the splits, and half the teams did 180's in terms of success.



No this is not what I want to know.


I mostly want to know which role to pick from the wildcard position... would a midlaner get more point than a top laner, for example.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 21:33:14
May 15 2014 21:10 GMT
#17
Except Copenhagen Wolves, who finished 6th in EU LCS, are the highest scoring team and Fnatic, who finished 2nd in EU LCS, are the 6th highest scoring team.

SK 1 -> 2 (268)
FNC 2 -> 6 (242)
A 3 -> 4 (257)
ROC 4 -> 5 (256)
GMB 5 -> 3 (264)
CW 6 -> 1 (271)
SHC 7 ->7 (210)
M 8 -> 8 (207)

First number is split position, second is scoring position, third is points scored.
Although even if you make a victory worth 5 points, only CW and SK switch places in overall ranking on points, mainly because EU LCS is so close.
The NA LCS stats on Leaguepedia seem to be dead at the moment which is why I did EU.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/Europe/2014_Season/Statistics/Spring_Round_Robin

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rSrUTO5ojHlh0Vl7Q-RBHXMwub-2X2FicSAPxq5Z4Bs/edit?usp=sharing
Google docs link of my calculations, you can even play around with the points values for each objective if you're really bored.
HOLY CHECK!
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
May 15 2014 21:19 GMT
#18
Here's the info for last split for those interested.

http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/2014/split1/stats

I'm guessing this won't be like our Fantasy worlds?
Will there be a draft? if not, TSM and CLG will play a pretty big role since C9 players would be the most expensive.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 15 2014 22:19 GMT
#19
I was really confused about the 8 player leagues until I remembered that you can draft from NA and EU lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 15 2014 22:27 GMT
#20
Site is live, you can form leagues now.
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