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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 18 2014 17:18 GMT
#1661
On May 19 2014 01:56 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 01:48 Ketara wrote:
The damage on his ult is really low, honestly. It is the same as Sona ult.

The slow field seems ridic though.

My bad about that, in games it always feels like a lot of damage, but apparently it isn't.


any damage you can do to a stunned target when no one have health items yet feels like a lot of damage. having a knock up and a stun means hes gonna feel pretty monster with lvl 6 all ins even if they hit for 10.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2014 17:20 GMT
#1662
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.


Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
May 18 2014 17:28 GMT
#1663
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Ye, but he was in really good situation after Elise gank at 4 min. He just freeze lane and Irelia was fucked since Lee didn't come top to help him push to the tower.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 18 2014 17:30 GMT
#1664
Braum seems to be what I thought he'd be reading his notes then. In some ways though with melee range supports I get the impression you want them to be above average in order for them to be viable since the range disadvantage is pretty big.

As for the scrim idk. You could argue that maybe they're getting used to each other or they knew it would be recorded so aren't showing stuff off. But still not tryharding in scrims does seem wasteful.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 17:31:56
May 18 2014 17:31 GMT
#1665
On May 19 2014 02:20 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.

Most teams seem to say they don't play 100% in scrims because they don't want to give anything away. Considering that CLG and LMQ play eachother in the first week of LCS they're both going to try to keep things obscure.
Some teams become known for sandbagging in scrims, fnatic reportedly almost never take scrims seriously and use them as free scouting primarily.
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2014 17:34 GMT
#1666
On May 19 2014 02:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 02:20 nafta wrote:
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.

Most teams seem to say they don't play 100% in scrims because they don't want to give anything away. Considering that CLG and LMQ play eachother in the first week of LCS they're both going to try to keep things obscure.
Some teams become known for sandbagging in scrims, fnatic reportedly almost never take scrims seriously and use them as free scouting primarily.

You can give it 100% and just pick standart so you dont show anything.I guess if it was known that it would be streamed its fine.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1667
On May 19 2014 02:34 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 02:31 Fusilero wrote:
On May 19 2014 02:20 nafta wrote:
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.

Most teams seem to say they don't play 100% in scrims because they don't want to give anything away. Considering that CLG and LMQ play eachother in the first week of LCS they're both going to try to keep things obscure.
Some teams become known for sandbagging in scrims, fnatic reportedly almost never take scrims seriously and use them as free scouting primarily.

You can give it 100% and just pick standart so you dont show anything.I guess if it was known that it would be streamed its fine.


Yea you can treat it as a pickup. That's kind of why I'm so confused why teams care about Solo Q. Scrims should be giving you the mechanical practice you need since even if you don't want to give away strats it should still be better practice than solo Q. Guess teams just decide to dick around rather than actually practice?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 18 2014 17:45 GMT
#1668
On May 19 2014 02:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 02:20 nafta wrote:
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.

Most teams seem to say they don't play 100% in scrims because they don't want to give anything away. Considering that CLG and LMQ play eachother in the first week of LCS they're both going to try to keep things obscure.
Some teams become known for sandbagging in scrims, fnatic reportedly almost never take scrims seriously and use them as free scouting primarily.


loads of pros love to talk about how they shouldnt aim to be best in NA or EU, its either best in the world or go home. they talk about korea being the real 'enemy' and all that crap. then loads of teams admit to trolling in scrimms.

this is the kinda shit that makes me hate western esports.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 18 2014 18:00 GMT
#1669
On May 19 2014 02:20 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
clg vs lmq scrim for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cQV3G3uAw

Seraph looking pretty good.

Is it just me but shouldnt you tryhard in scrims?Its pretty obvious both teams are dicking around.


Well, no I know Aphro feeds outside of the laning phase with support Zyra in almost exactly the same ways. I lol'd, it was like watching my own replay, "Oh look at that decent snare, ANND shes dead."

On May 19 2014 02:30 MoonBear wrote:
Braum seems to be what I thought he'd be reading his notes then. In some ways though with melee range supports I get the impression you want them to be above average in order for them to be viable since the range disadvantage is pretty big.



This is why I think Melee range supports need to be the "niche" supports rather than the FOTM all around good supports. It seems really hard to balance the need for Leona/Thresh (and now Braum) to be tanky during engages, with the need for ADCs and Ranged supports to poke them out during the lane phase.
Freeeeeeedom
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 18 2014 18:15 GMT
#1670
How can you know if a strategy will work if you won't use it in scrims? If everyone is gonna troll/sandbag their scrims, what knowledge can they really get from them, except for maybe scouting informantion (unless the other team also trolls/sandbags)?

I really hope western esport isn't this sad.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 18 2014 18:20 GMT
#1671
I imagine the teams that don't sandbag are the ones that aren't running around rambling on about their scrims
Glorious SEA doto
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 18 2014 18:25 GMT
#1672
Just give up on western esports, and embrace our glorious korean overlords.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 18 2014 18:26 GMT
#1673
On May 19 2014 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just give up on western esports, and embrace our glorious korean overlords.

Or still enjoy western competition but willingly acknowledge that Korea is pinnacle of competition like I do.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
May 18 2014 18:26 GMT
#1674
On May 19 2014 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just give up on western esports, and embrace our glorious korean overlords.

I believe in austrian esports, we will surely soon overtake korea.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 18:28:43
May 18 2014 18:27 GMT
#1675
On May 19 2014 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just give up on western esports, and embrace our glorious korean overlords.


is that you monte.

On May 19 2014 03:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just give up on western esports, and embrace our glorious korean overlords.

Or still enjoy western competition but willingly acknowledge that Korea is pinnacle of competition like I do.


ye this is kinda how i feel. i used to have hope that western pros in SC2 and then lol would look at the decade of experience of the korean system and try their hardest to emulate it. but since this hasnt happened i think i can finally relax about white people being so bad and just enjoy the showmanship. its like watching wrestling in a way, you can enjoy the show even though the result doesnt matter.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 18 2014 18:30 GMT
#1676
But...but guys fnatic got kills on SKT K they're totally Korean level. I mean SKT were taking it so seriously after all they picked jax!
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#1677
NiP vs Gamers2 game 2 is on. http://www.twitch.tv/tsmtournaments

Alex going for an interesting Kayle build. Nashors into RUNAANS. Is that standard or common? Seems really weird to me.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#1678
On May 19 2014 03:33 Numy wrote:
NiP vs Gamers2 game 2 is on. http://www.twitch.tv/tsmtournaments

Alex going for an interesting Kayle build. Nashors into RUNAANS. Is that standard or common? Seems really weird to me.

Go back like 2 pages. Korean kayle is new fotm
liftlift > tsm
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#1679
We just discussed it, it's a new build popular in Korean Soloq
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#1680
On May 19 2014 03:33 Numy wrote:
NiP vs Gamers2 game 2 is on. http://www.twitch.tv/tsmtournaments

Alex going for an interesting Kayle build. Nashors into RUNAANS. Is that standard or common? Seems really weird to me.


if by standard you mean circlejerk.
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