EPTA better player can tell a worse player 10000 very specific tips and the worse player may very well not gain any elo at all, at least right after because everything has to be INTERNALIZED through experience before you can improve. It's the same as I can write you a fucking book on how to animation cancel but to actually do it in the heat of a battle takes many many games of practice. Just like I can tell you to GET MOAR DRAGONS, but how do you know when? you're probably gonna die a lot of times by trying to get dragons too early until you realize you shouldn't listen to dumb fucking advice on the internet.
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
A better player can tell a worse player 10000 very specific tips and the worse player may very well not gain any elo at all, at least right after because everything has to be INTERNALIZED through experience before you can improve. It's the same as I can write you a fucking book on how to animation cancel but to actually do it in the heat of a battle takes many many games of practice. Just like I can tell you to GET MOAR DRAGONS, but how do you know when? you're probably gonna die a lot of times by trying to get dragons too early until you realize you shouldn't listen to dumb fucking advice on the internet. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: you know for years and years people weren't allowed to ask questions in the BW strat section without posting a replay, obv that's harder to do in LoL but if you're so fucking dumb that you can't even pinpoint the GENERAL AREA you need to improve on and have to fill the hole in your brain with advice like GET LOTS OF DRAGONS then you should go to reddit. A better player can tell a worse player 10000 very specific tips and the worse player may very well not gain any elo at all, at least right after because everything has to INTERNALIZED through experience before you can improve. It's the same as I can write you a fucking book on how to animation cancel but to actually do it in the heat of a battle takes many many games of practice. Just like I can tell you to GET MOAR DRAGONS, but how do you know when? you're probably gonna die a lot of times by trying to get dragons too early until you realize you shouldn't listen to dumb fucking advice on the internet. you are probably right, its probably worth demanding replays before a discussion starts about improvement. | ||
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: you know for years and years people weren't allowed to ask questions in the BW strat section without posting a replay, obv that's harder to do in LoL but if you're so fucking dumb that you can't even pinpoint the GENERAL AREA you need to improve on and have to fill the hole in your brain with advice like GET LOTS OF DRAGONS then you should go to reddit. A better player can tell a worse player 10000 very specific tips and the worse player may very well not gain any elo at all, at least right after because everything has to be INTERNALIZED through experience before you can improve. It's the same as I can write you a fucking book on how to animation cancel but to actually do it in the heat of a battle takes many many games of practice. Just like I can tell you to GET MOAR DRAGONS, but how do you know when? you're probably gonna die a lot of times by trying to get dragons too early until you realize you shouldn't listen to dumb fucking advice on the internet. This is all that needs to be said right here. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 12 2014 04:18 canikizu wrote: Correction: J4 does %armor reduction, so in late game, it gives more benefit for your adc or bruiser, not just for j4 himself. Not only that, his flag can give adc 22% attack speed. So if you successfully EQ to peel for your adc, not only you lower the enemy armor, but also gives your adc attackspeed to finish him off. Yes that is what I meant to say, though the 22% attack speed isn't as important lategame (also you should level up e last because it has no CD component) because most AD's will have 3%/level scaling, Zerkers, and PD/Triforce/Shiv for a total attack speed bonus of 109-134 (152 for the 4%/level scalers of Ashe, Cait, Vayne, and Trist) before they use any AS boosting abilities. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:24 ParadeofMadness wrote: best way to gain elo is probably pick some strong early game melee champ like panth or renek and win lane hard and kill their jungler when he comes as well. After that roam mid or bot Most people in silver or gold probably dont understand the concept of power spike and innate differentials very well the best way to gain elo is to get better at playing league of legends. people worry far too much about picking the right counter or the right op champ when individual player skill decides far more lanes/games than the matchups do. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:33 Goumindong wrote: Yes that is what I meant to say, though the 22% attack speed isn't as important lategame (also you should level up e last because it has no CD component) because most AD's will have 3%/level scaling, Zerkers, and PD/Triforce/Shiv for a total attack speed bonus of 109-134 (152 for the 4%/level scalers of Ashe, Cait, Vayne, and Trist) before they use any AS boosting abilities. Hm, most people I watch playing max W last, and max E after Q. Is there any new build that I don't know? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35150 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On May 12 2014 07:25 Alaric wrote: Some people maxed W second for the additional tankiness out of the jungle. You know, when J4 was actually still played. Dude, J4 is my op champ. I have like 75% winrate in 40 games with him this season. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 12 2014 07:42 canikizu wrote: Dude, J4 is my op champ. I have like 75% winrate in 40 games with him this season. That clearly means he is op and popular yeah. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
B-but he's as op as gankplank is yo. | ||
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:45 chalice wrote: the best way to gain elo is to get better at playing league of legends. people worry far too much about picking the right counter or the right op champ when individual player skill decides far more lanes/games than the matchups do. No shit everyone agrees the best way to gain elo is to get better. That is because the asessemnt of 'better' in LoL is just the gaining of elo. Telling a silver to get better helps them absoultey nil. Everyone agrees to get better, the problem is on the details of what exactly constitutes 'better'. And lane match ups play a determing factor in winning in soloq. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 12 2014 07:51 ParadeofMadness wrote: No shit everyone agrees the best way to gain elo is to get better. That is because the asessemnt of 'better' in LoL is just the gaining of elo. Telling a silver to get better helps them absoultey nil. Everyone agrees to get better, the problem is on the details of what exactly constitutes 'better'. And lane match ups play a determing factor in winning in soloq. Its actually really simple:last hit better and + Show Spoiler + | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: you know for years and years people weren't allowed to ask questions in the BW strat section without posting a replay, obv that's harder to do in LoL but if you're so fucking dumb that you can't even pinpoint the GENERAL AREA you need to improve on and have to fill the hole in your brain with advice like GET LOTS OF DRAGONS then you should go to reddit. A better player can tell a worse player 10000 very specific tips and the worse player may very well not gain any elo at all, at least right after because everything has to be INTERNALIZED through experience before you can improve. It's the same as I can write you a fucking book on how to animation cancel but to actually do it in the heat of a battle takes many many games of practice. Just like I can tell you to GET MOAR DRAGONS, but how do you know when? you're probably gonna die a lot of times by trying to get dragons too early until you realize you shouldn't listen to dumb fucking advice on the internet. haha, this is the post of the day for me. sup bly? | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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