EPTIf you can't play at least 3 roles at whatever level you think you are, you're not that level. Ideally you should play all but one or even every role. If you can't get carried on your worst 2 roles, you're not as good as you think you are.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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If you can't play at least 3 roles at whatever level you think you are, you're not that level. Ideally you should play all but one or even every role. If you can't get carried on your worst 2 roles, you're not as good as you think you are. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 12 2014 08:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Seriously most people's problem is that they think that because they're good at one role, they should be at whatever level they play that one role at. If you can't play at least 3 roles at whatever level you think you are, you're not that level. Ideally you should play all but one or even every role. If you can't get carried on your worst 2 roles, you're not as good as you think you are. I actually don't see a problem with that. There are plenty of one trick ponies in solo q, who play the darnedest of champions. Ideally, it would be best if you could play 2-3 champions for each of the 5 roles but there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. You can climb to D1 with just one champion ezpz. You just have to know that champion on par or better than pros. (e.g. Pretty sure McCashDollar, BatJewMan, etc all know their solo queue champions better than even NA LCS pros.) | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On May 12 2014 08:10 Velocirapture wrote: I think that picking appropriate champs is a bigger deal than most people want to admit. Unless you hugely outclass your opponent, winning lane in solo queue is often determined in champ select. It may sound jaded but once you start assuming that you will get ganked ten times in the first ten minutes and get zero help from your allies the viable champ pool shrinks considerably. Renekton/nidalee/lucian etc. are all viable with this assumption and who do we see in D1 play over and over again? Go ahead and play the high risk/high reward champs if you find them more fun but don't then get mad when you go 0-10 because nobody calls mia and your jungle Yi won't leave jungle until he has 20 FF stacks. no one's saying it's not important, and yes the higher elo it is, the more often games are decided in champion select. Canceling autoattacks is absolutely important if you want to play a champion well. For example with Xin, you should be autoattacking once then using your Q to cancel the animation EVERY time your Q is up when doing jungle camps. I didn't realize this until very late and it took a while to apply it to ganks and fights. The extra damage you gain my getting that extra auto off can sometimes be game changing, but if you try to cancel when you only have time to get three autos in, thereby missing your knock up, then you fucked up by missing a CC. No one's saying counters, csing, dragons, calls, timing, communication, pinging, etc, any of those things aren't important, but it's pretty dumb to say any one of those things are the MOST important or MORE important than the other. Without knowing specifically what someone needs to work on, it does nothing but clog up the forum to give aimless and general advice. Also please don't speak for entire elo brackets unless it's like challenger or D1. You have no idea how 99% of the games at your elo play out. and yes i puked a little when i read the sufficiency post | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 12 2014 08:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Seriously most people's problem is that they think that because they're good at one role, they should be at whatever level they play that one role at. If you can't play at least 3 roles at whatever level you think you are, you're not that level. Ideally you should play all but one or even every role. If you can't get carried on your worst 2 roles, you're not as good as you think you are. dodge your way to high elo like I did | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On May 12 2014 09:28 Sufficiency wrote: I think the easiest way to improve is to not do the Genja builds, which I see way too often. But sometimes, you need a Zephyr. Or 3 dorans into tear. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On May 12 2014 09:28 Sufficiency wrote: I think the easiest way to improve is to not do the Genja builds, which I see way too often. Machete, BT, double PD J4. I never wanted to kill somebody more in my life. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 12 2014 09:28 Sufficiency wrote: I think the easiest way to improve is to not do the Genja builds, which I see way too often. I literally don't understand why they keep on t he team when he does dumb shit like that. It's not even like accidently getting caught dumb its just pure extra chromosome level stupidity | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 12 2014 09:50 Gahlo wrote: Machete, BT, double PD J4. I never wanted to kill somebody more in my life. If you can afford that on j4, you're probably winning. Or you're playing against clg.eu. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 12 2014 10:20 arb wrote: I literally don't understand why they keep on t he team when he does dumb shit like that. It's not even like accidently getting caught dumb its just pure extra chromosome level stupidity I actually used the phrase "genja build" as a general term for "bad builds". But yeah, I think his itemization choices are a bit questionable. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On May 12 2014 10:20 arb wrote: I literally don't understand why they keep on t he team when he does dumb shit like that. It's not even like accidently getting caught dumb its just pure extra chromosome level stupidity The issue with Gambit is that, as the team is constructed, all the player MUST be fluent in Russian to run at peak efficiency. This greatly limits the pool of players they can draw from. It's also why you'll see other EU teams from all over the place, but it all works out because they all speak a common language(usually English). In short, #1 and #2 AD might not seem like a big deal, but it is when #2 Russian speaker might be #36(just an example) AD. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
It would be like if a baseball catcher regularly went behind the plate with a outfielders glove. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On May 12 2014 10:46 Goumindong wrote: Yes but like all Genja has to do is build different items. Its not like that is some sort of skill which is hard to learn, practice, or is limited by raw physical talent. It would be like if a baseball catcher regularly went behind the plate with a outfielders glove. His team has told him to change, but he refuses to. Alex went over it briefly with his exit interview from Gambit, saying a lot of his teammates are very averse to contructive citicism because they think they're all gods at their position. Outside of Edward, he has had a strictly buisness relationship with them for a while now. Specifically Genja and Darien. On May 12 2014 10:51 Sufficiency wrote: So basically, knowing English is an essential tool for any kind of job and will get you far. In such a linguistically dense region + large American soft power presence, yeah. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On May 12 2014 10:21 wei2coolman wrote: If you can afford that on j4, you're probably winning. Or you're playing against clg.eu. Or he's on Garena server | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On May 12 2014 10:46 Goumindong wrote: Yes but like all Genja has to do is build different items. Its not like that is some sort of skill which is hard to learn, practice, or is limited by raw physical talent. It would be like if a baseball catcher regularly went behind the plate with a outfielders glove. I approve of this metaphor, using anything other than a catcher's mitt hurts like a fucking bitch, even the padding in the glove doesn't protect you if you have a hard thrower, or a foul. Genja needs to get relegated, I hate to say it, but Gambit needs the wake-up call. Fnatic to a lesser extent as well, you shouldn't be able to be absolutely shit for 2-3 weeks, and then come back and win the entire split, it doesn't feel right. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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