EPTXpecial is a good support but he still needs to keep improving or he'll be left behind like [insert retired pro here]. I dislike people who just kinda hide behind their names or an image they held long ago, and he definitely seems like that type. It's always better to have a chip on your shoulder, and while we can speculate what he got benched for, it doesn't change the fact that he does need to step his shit up. But he shouldn't take it personally, everyone needs to.
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Xpecial is a good support but he still needs to keep improving or he'll be left behind like [insert retired pro here]. I dislike people who just kinda hide behind their names or an image they held long ago, and he definitely seems like that type. It's always better to have a chip on your shoulder, and while we can speculate what he got benched for, it doesn't change the fact that he does need to step his shit up. But he shouldn't take it personally, everyone needs to. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 28 2014 16:01 Roffles wrote: I think Dyrus is TSM's weakest player. Oddone is the glue that holds the team together and usually is able to get TSM rolling to a good start with good ganks. Dyrus on the other hand is prone to feeding, never winning lane, and going 0-10 on Vladimir at Worlds. Oddone does struggle at times against stronger junglers, but as we saw at worlds, he played incredibly solid and showed that he can hold his own against elite level competition. Dyrus on the other hand just feeds and chokes when he plays against someone better than him. Oddone has been a super solid part of TSM since even before Season 1 and the reason why he'll be the last one to go is because he will do whatever the team needs him to do. He'll play any style, any champion. As long as the team requires him to play it, he'll put in the time and the effort to practice it and play it. No questions asked with that guy. He'll oblige regardless, which I think is what old TSM struggled with. Regi basically made him his bitch midlane, but now he gets free reign to do more across the map and he's really shown that he can play both farming junglers and ganking junglers very well. Dyrus is just a feeder and a choke artist. I feel like Oddone is much better on supporty jungles tbh. I think thats what most people think of when they think of Oddone. He was always the anti StVicious in their primes, favoring the support/wardbitch jungles vs the hard carry jungle type | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
Yes regi is a scumbag coach but at least he's doing it for the team  . Most likely event is that Xpecial probably doesn't want to lose his job and will get back to practising hard and earn his spot back. Or he's already burned out/bored of league and then it's a good idea to bench him. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Next split should be interesting ^^ poor travis http://www.ongamers.com/videos/prolly-on-complexity-s-future-and-his-thoughts-on-/2300-510/ | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 28 2014 19:19 Shiznick wrote: pretty sure playing not to lose is what makes dyrus so shitty, how can you push yourself to be a better player if your criteria for fulfilling your role on a team is to not feed? what makes the top players da bes is the desire to shit stomp everyone. As often as people (including him) says that he plays not to lose, he DOES carry hard when he's put into a position to. Could point to many many LCS games where he just carried the fuck out of TSM. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On April 28 2014 20:27 Mikau wrote: In my experience (and the amount of anti-snowballing mechanics currently in the game suggest this as well) somebody doing badly decreases your winchance by more than somebody doing well increases it. If that is true then going into lane to not lose might be the bigger +EV play. How to you plan to win a game if everyone's goal is just not to lose? Or do you rely on your team to be better than their counterparts while you just stay even? How could you consider that a good player - as in, one of the best? Besides, your goal is not to go 50:50 win/lose instead of 100% even. So +EV doens't really makes sense. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
WTF is happening with NA??????????? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
They need to give him an airbag to breathe from dueing his flight lol. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On April 28 2014 20:38 Keniji wrote: How to you plan to win a game if everyone's goal is just not to lose? Or do you rely on your team to be better than their counterparts while you just stay even? How could you consider that a good player - as in, one of the best? Besides, your goal is not to go 50:50 win/lose instead of 100% even. So +EV doens't really makes sense. I don't think you know what EV means. Playing to not lose isn't the same as playing to go even. It just means minimizing the amount of high risk/high reward plays and instead take the low risk/low reward play. You can still play better than your counterpart and show it, it just likely won't show in flashy plays and a lot of kills/deaths, but in smaller things like towers taken/tower damage, experience leads and minion kill leads. Taking small safe 100% advantages instead of making huge towerdives that have potential to fail and give your opponents first blood, or snowball into objectives, or whatever. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On April 28 2014 21:15 Mikau wrote: I don't think you know what EV means. Playing to not lose isn't the same as playing to go even. It just means minimizing the amount of high risk/high reward plays and instead take the low risk/low reward play. You can still play better than your counterpart and show it, it just likely won't show in flashy plays and a lot of kills/deaths, but in smaller things like towers taken/tower damage, experience leads and minion kill leads. Taking small safe 100% advantages instead of making huge towerdives that have potential to fail and give your opponents first blood, or snowball into objectives, or whatever. I do know what EV means. Playing to win is not herp derp tower dive with a 50% chance to succeed. And when you say playing not to lose instead of playing to win is +EV because a lead is less significant then being behind (which is weird in itself, as there can't be one without the other) then you assume playing to win turns into being behind as often as being ahead. The expected outcome of playing to win is determined on how good the player is in regards to his opponent I would assume. So yea, playing not to lose might be best if you are mediocre, and are fine with getting the best out of being mediocre. But you are not able to have a huge impact on the game. I do not think that is a mindset professional players should have, especially not those that strive to be the best (in their region). edit: But it probably all comes down to the definiton of "playing not to lose" and "playing to win" anyway. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
Collapsed lungs suck but apparently they're not as serous as it sounds and are actually "common." One of my friends had it, and we all freaked out and he basically said it's common for young men who are tall because their lungs are often stretched too much when they're growing and eventually one pops or something. It sounds scary but he said he just couldn't take a plane for a year or so and was otherwise fine? o.o? So hopefully he'll be fine. Sucks that C9 won't be able to get stomped at All-Star's with their full roster and people will just use this as an excuse for why NA blows huehuehue. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
The issue for TSM is probably the team synery/management/stuff like that. Dyrus is a good indicator of that actually, he's always been performing very well when the team was going better; Just look at his beard, or the fact he's gotten fatter... He doesn't speak a lot with is mouth but with his body imo (i used to watch his stream a lot). | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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