EPTRIP 4heartofgold boots wards Alistar
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
RIP 4heartofgold boots wards Alistar | ||
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ketchup
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Just think of it this way, Riot has had this approach since the Sona days. That's a long time now. They have a very clear trend of what they want their supports to be. It's normal now to expect it. The only thing you can hope for is that they don't completely go overboard with it. It has to happen because Riot has shown a pretty straight forward response in terms of what they want from a support role. So, I'm going to assume they'll buff her E(the shield)'s ap ratio, and nerf both the early game damage and ratio slightly from her Q. That's the usual trend I believe. If I'm wrong, that's cool too. I very much enjoy seeing Karma in that support role. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'd be surprised if the way her ult is hard to use offensively (esp. for a support) with the rampant mobility, W lacks value on champions without hitting a Q first (seriously as soon as people in front of you can push you get 2 ticks of it at most and it's super expensive), etc. would be taken into account to justify Q being strong to compensate for one of her spell dealing no damage nor cc and another one being reliant on said Q. | ||
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Don_Julio
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 25 2014 18:26 Don_Julio wrote: Does anyone know what happened to Phantomlord? I've seen almost no stupid videos of him on Reddit's frontpage lately. Did he stop streaming because of the incident with the hacker group? Currently playing Diablo. | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On March 25 2014 16:41 JazzVortical wrote: Nah, they'll just rework. Kit too toxic when popular etc etc. On supports, is Morgana's Q, one of the few 3 second CCs left, going to cop a nerf? I think that would be sad. It's just a snare, so maybe they won't nerf it | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Rengar is pretty obnoxious because he currently has a huge range to engage from and an oracle's lense won't save you (especially since he'll in range to gap close on you and tripleQ anyway), but in Kha'Zix's case it's "in combat" so as long as you can use it to see where he goes and whether he's trying to come back in, the stealth in itself isn't nearly as annoying as the damage reduction. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 25 2014 19:12 Alaric wrote: Your team can get several of those, though. I mean, it's not like we'd say Vayne, Akali or Twitch are OP because they have Stealth as a defensive mechanism. Rengar is pretty obnoxious because he currently has a huge range to engage from and an oracle's lense won't save you (especially since he'll in range to gap close on you and tripleQ anyway), but in Kha'Zix's case it's "in combat" so as long as you can use it to see where he goes and whether he's trying to come back in, the stealth in itself isn't nearly as annoying as the damage reduction. Akali's stealth is a defensive mechanism. She gets 10 to 50 armor/mr in her shroud. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On March 25 2014 18:05 Alaric wrote: Part of Morgana's Q comes from the slow projectile speed, significant cast animation, and mana cost. I doubt Riot will pay much heed to the cast animation and they rarely touch projectile speed (last time they did it was for Skarner and before that Zyra iirc, 'cept if you count changing Corki's Q?), and they see high mana costs as a hindrance so they'd end up "buffing" it and nerfing the skill to compensate. I'd be surprised if the way her ult is hard to use offensively (esp. for a support) with the rampant mobility, W lacks value on champions without hitting a Q first (seriously as soon as people in front of you can push you get 2 ticks of it at most and it's super expensive), etc. would be taken into account to justify Q being strong to compensate for one of her spell dealing no damage nor cc and another one being reliant on said Q. Champs are getting more mobile, CC is becoming less and less. Odd interaction. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Also from a vision war perspective, its pretty annoying to have to reserve your ward sweeping items for combat. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 Akali on the enemy team? -> get an oracle's lens, and maybe another sweeper on the team so you can remove wards and still have it up for teamfights. Of course I can't really disagree with ze0das about how "needing the team to get some more sweepers" will on average give an advantage to the "stealth" team in a soloQ environment, but I don't believe it's grounds for determining a champion's balance by itself. It'll always be annoying to have vision wars and get your team to help with wards regardless of stealth. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Hiding himself behind Blizzard :o | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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kongoline
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On March 25 2014 19:38 JazzVortical wrote: Champs are getting more mobile, CC is becoming less and less. Odd interaction. Given what seems to be their current design philosophy, I wouldn't be surprised if riot just answers that with: "Moving is fun, not moving is not fun" | ||
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