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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On March 22 2014 21:28 arb wrote: Pretty sure that Graves buff will make him retarded good botlane without the severe drop off from someone face tanking his ult Pretty sure Graves will still be terrible. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 22 2014 21:19 IMoperator wrote: idk if naniwa would be good in a team game like league lol. Maybe he'd be like uzi and needs someone to tame him to unlock his potential. That's when sase switches to league and naniwa/sase becomes the greatest bot lane ever. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On March 22 2014 21:28 arb wrote: Pretty sure that Graves buff will make him retarded good botlane without the severe drop off from someone face tanking his ult Yeah....no. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/free7037 his struggle against xsplit continues. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3HDzjz2.png) When Yasuo plays against Nidalee, for example, Yasuo wins 4.8756% more often, after adjusting for overall power of Yasuo and Nidalee. On the other hand, he seems to lose (1 - 0.9.622) * 100% more often against Fizz, after adjusting for overall power of Yasuo and Fizz. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On March 23 2014 00:35 oneofthem wrote: mandu's twitch stream http://www.twitch.tv/free7037 his struggle against xsplit continues. surprised he streams on twitch instead of afreeca where he'd probably make more money. While I like that he streams to the west now, it's still questionable considering he's on break "for health reasons." | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Agreed. His ult being plain outclassed by jinx ult is one weakness and will be addressed by this change, but he has a ton of other weaknesses that make him underplayed like his low range. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On March 23 2014 01:22 Sufficiency wrote: Did some analysis on Yasuo counters, results below (with all the junks filtered out): When Yasuo plays against Nidalee, for example, Yasuo wins 4.8756% more often, after adjusting for overall power of Yasuo and Nidalee. On the other hand, he seems to lose (1 - 0.9.622) * 100% more often against Fizz, after adjusting for overall power of Yasuo and Fizz. Would be interested to see data from this project on Lux for the Lux guide. tyty | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 23 2014 01:40 Ketara wrote: Would be interested to see data from this project on Lux for the Lux guide. tyty I am going to run it for Lux and Veigar once my current batch is done. So maybe later tonight? We'll see. I can eventually do it for every champion, but right now it takes ~1 hour per champion so it's kind of slow. Meanwhile, here's Leona: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wy4s65s.png) I really like this new format better. It's easier to read. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On March 23 2014 01:32 Ryuu314 wrote: Agreed. His ult being plain outclassed by jinx ult is one weakness and will be addressed by this change, but he has a ton of other weaknesses that make him underplayed like his low range. I'd like it if they tweaked Graves a bit, maybe gave him some horrendous base attack speed but significantly increased his passive defense steroid and the rest of his damage mitigation and turned him into a character that was a poor AD but was extremely effective as close-range bruiser. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
The only reason to pick him ever seems like if you are doing some gimmicky darkness comp or something. nocturne/graves/bunch of assassins so other team has no idea whats goin on or something trl0l0l0l | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 23 2014 02:20 nafta wrote: Problem with graves is he doesn't really fit the meta AND his numbers are a bit on the low side. Sir, if you buy a hurricane you can basically have E always up! | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On March 23 2014 02:19 Alaric wrote: You mean apart from the fact that he already has 0.625 base AS and only 2.9% per level, making him bottom of the barrel in that regard? Except that Jinx, Ezreal, Corki and Sivir all have lower AS at 18. And its not like quickdraw is a massive steroid or anything. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 23 2014 02:59 ticklishmusic wrote: Except that Jinx, Ezreal, Corki and Sivir all have lower AS at 18. And its not like quickdraw is a massive steroid or anything. Yeah, it's not like Jinx's steroid beats his natural AS after one attack, and his own steroid after two, and that if she doesn't use it she has a 175 range advantage on him. It's not like Sivir's steroid is bigger than his and she deals better AoE damage than him in terms of dps so after his burst (which is low by level 18 standard) she'll quickly gain the advantage. Oh, or the fact that Corki's spells give him way more damage and that he can effectively kite with missiles for a way longer reach than his. Ezreal was specifically set to the same AS as him around when W was broken. He has longer reach with Q, and his steroid is virtually always up. So yeah, for someone who's got one of the shortest ranges and reaches, he's actually not outputting much dps. Also his base AS+range mean it's actually a pain to last hit with him early on against a lane with range advantage for example (stuff like Leona makes up for it because it provides a big threat to create space after level 2). | ||
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