EPT[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 95
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:14 GrandInquisitor wrote: Well obviously you want a Haunting Guise ASAP. After that, I typically go for a Madred's Razors followed by a Runaan's Hurricane. What you build after that depends on the matchup; sometimes I opt for a Mejai's Soulstealer, other times I get a Twin Shadows. Regardless at some point you'll want a Tear, which is really good on him because you can spam his spells since he has no mana costs. I think I've found out why you're stuck in silver. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
it was a bad buy even at 20% cdr cdr is mostly worthless on his W and R and mostly on E because the cd starts after spin ends. CD on q starts after hit lands and you use it to close gap so mostly shitty on that too lol 20% regen on your pasisve its like 5 hp5 buy 1 potion and over 20 minuets it'll be just as good | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:11 Zdrastochye wrote: Supports get the praise they need. with s4 supports being monsters compared to the previous 3 seasons those good at the support role can have more of an influence on the game than before by being able to contribute with damage as well as their usual roles of warding/ward clearing/peeling/engaging. With the extra gold they have they should either stack up on the good active items or get damage (based on what their team needs) and should actually be carrying team fights if they play right. I liked being ward bitch in s3 but s4 support isnt' bad or anything. I'd say it's actually right about where riot wanted the role to be. Eh. Good supports carry less hard now IMO. Part of that is the fotm champs, part is less ward domination, and part is that everyone Carries less hard because the game is less snowbally. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:31 cLutZ wrote: Eh. Good supports carry less hard now IMO. Part of that is the fotm champs, part is less ward domination, and part is that everyone Carries less hard because the game is less snowbally. So you're saying my 80% (now 70% QQ) win-rate on Leona was because i got carried? I know i played bad people most of the time, but saying that I'm carrying less is a bloody lie, cus i hit most of my shit perfect. EDIT: Which brings us back to what nafta was trying to say. In the d1-d2 area it portrays itself through hitting your shit, if you do it, people will praise you. At lower levels, it's just easier. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:19 Zdrastochye wrote: I think I've found out why you're stuck in silver. Yeah, cause my noob teammates never gank. I mean come on, how do you expect me to win my lane if my jungler never shows up? Seriously, Akali had to burn her ult in order to kill me. | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:13 Slayer91 wrote: bc/lw optional bc is good lategameish especially, lw is good at any time but at earliest after your first tank item (usually sunfire/bv sometimes hexdrinker+giants) Shiv is p good imo. also does sheen work on garens Q? | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:37 GrandInquisitor wrote: Yeah, cause my noob teammates never gank. I mean come on, how do you expect me to win my lane if my jungler never shows up? Seriously, Akali had to burn her ult in order to kill me. Your Reddit impression is immaculate. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:13 Slayer91 wrote: bc/lw optional bc is good lategameish especially, lw is good at any time but at earliest after your first tank item (usually sunfire/bv sometimes hexdrinker+giants) I'm very disappointed in you, I was sure that you if anyone would appreciate the manliness that is IE Garen. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:47 Shikyo wrote: I'm very disappointed in you, I was sure that you if anyone would appreciate the manliness that is IE Garen. its trash you gain half the benefit of the crit dmg | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 11 2014 22:50 Ketara wrote: Real men call Sunfire and Hexdrinker damage items. Sunfire is a damage item in the OP as fuck magic pen shen build with thornmail and sunfire. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 11 2014 23:28 Alzadar wrote: So I've been out of the LoL loop for awhile now, has there been a Ryze resurgence? The Rogue Mage is my one true love, played him yesterday and he felt pretty decent. Tear got buffed and so did the range of his Q, as far as a resurgence goes he has been only been played by nien in LCS and later on it got banned against him. Besides that it's been quiet on the ryze front but that's the only games on the current patch with the ryze/tear buffs. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
With Banshee's no longer giving mana and Spirit Visage totally unappealing, I feel like Tear -> Rod -> Frozen (with Negatron somewhere for eventual GA) is the way to go now. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On March 11 2014 23:28 Alzadar wrote: So I've been out of the LoL loop for awhile now, has there been a Ryze resurgence? The Rogue Mage is my one true love, played him yesterday and he felt pretty decent. Eh? you just dated him yesterday and already called him your true love? slow down buddy. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 12 2014 00:01 canikizu wrote: Eh? you just dated him yesterday and already called him your true love? slow down buddy. It was the first time I'd played him since the patch, not first time ever. We will be together forever...   | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
O Len March 11 2014 22:34 Sponkz wrote: So you're saying my 80% (now 70% QQ) win-rate on Leona was because i got carried? I know i played bad people most of the time, but saying that I'm carrying less is a bloody lie, cus i hit most of my shit perfect. EDIT: Which brings us back to what nafta was trying to say. In the d1-d2 area it portrays itself through hitting your shit, if you do it, people will praise you. At lower levels, it's just easier. Your Leona is probably good, buy that is an anecdote. Carrying is about exploiting the difference in skill levels between you and your opponent , and IMO in a Leona, thresh, Annie meta the stronger player can fall behind more easily with little hope of coming back (even making a good play if your AD is dumb) compared to zyra or Lulu where you could solo the lane for your AD, and come back from a cheesy play. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On March 11 2014 23:53 Alzadar wrote: Not sure the Tear buff is a big deal. Over 20 minutes it's 150 stacks, that doesn't take long at all for Ryze. With Banshee's no longer giving mana and Spirit Visage totally unappealing, I feel like Tear -> Rod -> Frozen (with Negatron somewhere for eventual GA) is the way to go now. I think the Tear buff is pretty meaningful: Ryze is literally one of the worst champions in the game at stacking Tear, since a) he can't stack Tear without an enemy unit (unless you count his ult); and b) his typical spell rotation combos are too fast to fully proc the post-nerf Tear. | ||
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