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On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework. Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine.
I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.
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On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.
i think right now their plan is to test skarner with a level 1 E slow of like 50%+ so it's not completely useless with only one point.
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On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework. Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine. I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.
Rank1 Urgot ult range is looooooooooooooool
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Urgot is like, the saddest thing in League of Legends.
Picked 1% of the time with a 41% winrate.
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On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework. Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine. I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.
They don't rework champions just because they're too weak to be viable. They do it because their kit is poorly designed and not as fun as they imagined. You can judge that by whatever metric you want.
Also buffing a poorly designed champion with increased numbers may make him more viable in the short term but it doesn't mean it'll make him good for the game in the long run.
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This is a fairly exact representation of my S4 mid lane experience.
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I like this one better, but obviously it's harder to fit in this thread. 
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On February 26 2014 07:17 beefhamburger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework. Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine. I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again. They don't rework champions just because they're too weak to be viable. They do it because their kit is poorly designed and not as fun as they imagined. You can judge that by whatever metric you want. Also buffing a poorly designed champion with increased numbers may make him more viable in the short term but it doesn't mean it'll make him good for the game in the long run.
This is the theory, but its really not worked out quite that way in practice IMO. Olaf's rework seems to have been a good example. He still has too high of a skillcap for normal players. When he was played by the pros it looked like he was going to be bad, they buffed him to slightly strong, then nerfed him out of real relevance, all with tiny numbers tweaks.
Or look at Eve, not that I blame them for having trouble balancing a stealth champion, but the reworks never really address the fundamental issues with the balance. And really, one of the main fundamental issues is Riot's desire to flatten every champion's power curve.
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Mids who automatically assume you'll give them the second blue are the worst. I'm Eve. I'm not giving you the second blue.
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Junglers who think they can get more use out of the second blue than mid can are the worst.
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Mids that are 0/3 and then complain about not getting blue are worse than a feeding botlane.
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I'm Eve. I'm already 4-0-4 by the time the second blue is up.
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Watching the team slapfight and die when you're the top laner kinda makes me feel like the kid when a marriage falls apart.
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And I'm the strong and independent women who doesn't need a man, I'm taking the bluebuff and half your farm
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On February 26 2014 08:23 SagaZ wrote:
And I'm the strong and independent women who doesn't need a man, I'm taking the bluebuff and half your farm
BR pls. Huekaiser needs Blue to farm wraiths more efficiently.
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Nautilus just told me blue's more useful on me than him (Garen jungle, they were Naut+Blitz vs Trist+Thresh in hexakill).
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How is Jax a Trundle counter? He just build fulltank and I couldn't touch him after he got randuin's.
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On February 26 2014 08:12 Ketara wrote:
Junglers who think they can get more use out of the second blue than mid can are the worst.
They generally do, though.
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