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[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 130

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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 25 2014 21:53 GMT
#2581
On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.

Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine.


I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 25 2014 21:58 GMT
#2582
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.

i think right now their plan is to test skarner with a level 1 E slow of like 50%+ so it's not completely useless with only one point.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 25 2014 21:59 GMT
#2583
On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.

Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine.


I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.


Rank1 Urgot ult range is looooooooooooooool
Carrilord has arrived.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#2584
Urgot is like, the saddest thing in League of Legends.

Picked 1% of the time with a 41% winrate.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
February 25 2014 22:07 GMT
#2585


;_____;

+ Show Spoiler +
HEY SHIT LORD JUNGLERS GIVE MID BLUE
TranslatorBaa!
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#2586
On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.

Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine.


I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.

They don't rework champions just because they're too weak to be viable. They do it because their kit is poorly designed and not as fun as they imagined. You can judge that by whatever metric you want.
Also buffing a poorly designed champion with increased numbers may make him more viable in the short term but it doesn't mean it'll make him good for the game in the long run.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 25 2014 22:21 GMT
#2587
On February 26 2014 07:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7hlgjWlbA

;_____;

+ Show Spoiler +
HEY SHIT LORD JUNGLERS GIVE MID BLUE


This is a fairly exact representation of my S4 mid lane experience.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 22:36:09
February 25 2014 22:31 GMT
#2588
+ Show Spoiler +


I like this one better, but obviously it's harder to fit in this thread.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 25 2014 22:56 GMT
#2589
On February 26 2014 07:17 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 06:53 GettingIt wrote:
On February 26 2014 06:49 Amui wrote:
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote:
Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework.

Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine.


I agree with that. The thing that I hate most about Riot is that the rework champions instead of just buffing them where its needed so that they can be viable again.

They don't rework champions just because they're too weak to be viable. They do it because their kit is poorly designed and not as fun as they imagined. You can judge that by whatever metric you want.
Also buffing a poorly designed champion with increased numbers may make him more viable in the short term but it doesn't mean it'll make him good for the game in the long run.


This is the theory, but its really not worked out quite that way in practice IMO. Olaf's rework seems to have been a good example. He still has too high of a skillcap for normal players. When he was played by the pros it looked like he was going to be bad, they buffed him to slightly strong, then nerfed him out of real relevance, all with tiny numbers tweaks.

Or look at Eve, not that I blame them for having trouble balancing a stealth champion, but the reworks never really address the fundamental issues with the balance. And really, one of the main fundamental issues is Riot's desire to flatten every champion's power curve.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
February 25 2014 23:05 GMT
#2590
On February 26 2014 07:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7hlgjWlbA

;_____;

+ Show Spoiler +
HEY SHIT LORD JUNGLERS GIVE MID BLUE

Nah, mine.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 25 2014 23:07 GMT
#2591
Mids who automatically assume you'll give them the second blue are the worst. I'm Eve. I'm not giving you the second blue.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 25 2014 23:12 GMT
#2592
Junglers who think they can get more use out of the second blue than mid can are the worst.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
February 25 2014 23:18 GMT
#2593
Mids that are 0/3 and then complain about not getting blue are worse than a feeding botlane.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 25 2014 23:18 GMT
#2594
I'm Eve. I'm already 4-0-4 by the time the second blue is up.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 25 2014 23:19 GMT
#2595
Watching the team slapfight and die when you're the top laner kinda makes me feel like the kid when a marriage falls apart.
Glorious SEA doto
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 25 2014 23:23 GMT
#2596
And I'm the strong and independent women who doesn't need a man, I'm taking the bluebuff and half your farm
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 23:26:28
February 25 2014 23:26 GMT
#2597
On February 26 2014 08:23 SagaZ wrote:
And I'm the strong and independent women who doesn't need a man, I'm taking the bluebuff and half your farm


BR pls. Huekaiser needs Blue to farm wraiths more efficiently.
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 25 2014 23:27 GMT
#2598
Nautilus just told me blue's more useful on me than him (Garen jungle, they were Naut+Blitz vs Trist+Thresh in hexakill).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 25 2014 23:31 GMT
#2599
How is Jax a Trundle counter? He just build fulltank and I couldn't touch him after he got randuin's.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 25 2014 23:36 GMT
#2600
On February 26 2014 08:12 Ketara wrote:
Junglers who think they can get more use out of the second blue than mid can are the worst.

They generally do, though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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