EPTYeah, sure.
[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 129
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 26 2014 03:44 Slusher wrote: In a meta where Shyvana is relevant, Ori is relevant. Ori is definitely relevant. She is just hard to play. And won't reward excellent play as much as Gragas or Leblanc. Fed Leblanc or Gragas = GG, fed Ori is less crystal clear if she doesn't have a good ball delivery system, and even those still leave room for outplays. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 26 2014 04:28 Nos- wrote: The ori+shyvana combo is not quite as good as a lulu+shyvana in my opinion, but I still think there is a place for orianna. I also think lulu has taken the sport orianna originally had. I love both characters, so i don't mind much. The problem is Riot probably doesn't love Lulu mid that much. Maybe they shouldn't have turned botlane into a kill lane... | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On February 26 2014 04:22 cLutZ wrote: Ori is definitely relevant. She is just hard to play. And won't reward excellent play as much as Gragas or Leblanc. Fed Leblanc or Gragas = GG, fed Ori is less crystal clear if she doesn't have a good ball delivery system, and even those still leave room for outplays. Ori is just one of those characters where it doesn't matter how good a game you have if you miss your ult in the last fight. edit: its less that she is hard to play and more that a miss means a significant effective CD on the entire kit. Whereas, if you wiff an ability on any other champion its not a large deal because you have 3 more abilities to use, if you wiff an ability on Ori you wiff every ability on ori. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On February 26 2014 04:45 Goumindong wrote: Ori is just one of those characters where it doesn't matter how good a game you have if you miss your ult in the last fight. edit: its less that she is hard to play and more that a miss means a significant effective CD on the entire kit. Whereas, if you wiff an ability on any other champion its not a large deal because you have 3 more abilities to use, if you wiff an ability on Ori you wiff every ability on ori. That's like saying gragas doesn't care if he whiffs his cask because he still has barrel and bodyslam. Ori requires more awareness for where her ball is relative to herself, her team, and the enemy team should she need to reposition it. You can't just fire and forget an orianna Q like you can with gragas or lulu, nor can you get yourself out of a particularly tight spot without blowing flash. Shockwave is a game changer but to say missing shockwave means orianna is useless is a huge downplay of her entire kit. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
LCS will surely be played in 4.2 this week right? | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
WIll try and find the post, but it will take some digging E: found it | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
There are ideas in Vel'Koz's development that were inspired by Shuma Gorath I KNEW IT. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On February 26 2014 06:25 Talack wrote: So sick of this "tank everything and deal near-adc level damage" meta. Shit is no fun... It's all cyclical. Everything has its time. It was League of Assassins for quite a long time before now. Riot is almost getting the hang of letting a meta sit for awhile before shaking it up. I just wish they'd stop making retarded permanent changes to towers in top lane preventing certain strats from working and I'd be a happy camper all the time. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On February 26 2014 06:31 Zdrastochye wrote: It's all cyclical. Everything has its time. It was League of Assassins for quite a long time before now. Riot is almost getting the hang of letting a meta sit for awhile before shaking it up. I just wish they'd stop making retarded permanent changes to towers in top lane preventing certain strats from working and I'd be a happy camper all the time. I loved in s2 how if you wanted to be tanky, you didn't deal much damage. If you wanted to deal damage, you were very killable but still able to dive and survive. This whole game is shifting away from pros/cons of builds into just "do everything at once" style of play | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 26 2014 06:31 Alaric wrote: Went into an hexakill game as Garen and was able to kill Darius, Shyvana or a squishy before their Muramana Ezreal did more than half my health. Was fun. Are you trying to summon Teut? | ||
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GettingIt
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
That's the opposite, I had a level 28 smurf to finish leveling up so I could rank with a pal (he's silver, my s3 Elo was plat, I wouldn't waste people's time by duoing with him) and I decided to do it by only playing Garen. 2-0 so far, first one was jungle Garen (he can't reach people easily but he actually hurts once he gets there at early levels). | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On February 26 2014 06:42 GettingIt wrote: Has Riot received enough negative feedback on the Skarner rework to revert him back to how he used to be? I want my favorite champion back. It disappoints me that Riot goes out of there way to turn a decent champion into shit while shit champions like Urgot and Sion are sitting there needing a rework. Urgot doesn't need a rework. That's fucking stupid thing insinuated by riot because nobody plays him. And the reason nobody plays him is that he ate as many nerfs as per rework Olaf did. He just need a a couple Nerf reversions or slight buffs and hell be fine. | ||
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