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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#2301
I thought the whole point of Lux's kit was getting 40% CDR and throwing ults out every 30 seconds because fuck everything in the general direction of Lux's face?
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
February 23 2014 21:29 GMT
#2302
no its to do lots of damage from long range
cdr is secondary
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 23 2014 22:00 GMT
#2303
The problem with lichbane is that you want to keep your distance on lux. If you're close enough to the enemy team to be proccing lichbane, you'll likely be in range for some kind of hard engage.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
February 23 2014 22:16 GMT
#2304
On February 24 2014 07:00 Nos- wrote:
The problem with lichbane is that you want to keep your distance on lux. If you're close enough to the enemy team to be proccing lichbane, you'll likely be in range for some kind of hard engage.


But what about her passive?!
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 23 2014 22:31 GMT
#2305
On February 24 2014 07:16 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 07:00 Nos- wrote:
The problem with lichbane is that you want to keep your distance on lux. If you're close enough to the enemy team to be proccing lichbane, you'll likely be in range for some kind of hard engage.


But what about her passive?!

Isn't the passive just for laning?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 23 2014 22:54 GMT
#2306
Ori doesn't charge into the backline trying to auto down people, and neither should Lux.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#2307
A sheen proc on lux is worth like 50 damage, you're better off just getting AP so you can do your sniping job
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 22:57:48
February 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#2308
So I finally found a use for Zephyr outside of 6 item boot replacement on ADCs: Zed when teamfighting is unlikely. I was splitpushing against a Shen, and it was really nice to have the extra MS so I could keep up with him and stop him from escaping, since I usually could not kill him within a death mark. The CDR and tenacity was nice too.

Maybe trolly, but It was a decent 4th item I think. What do yall think?
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 23 2014 22:58 GMT
#2309
i'm not gonna do the math on it but basically every skill she has would benefit more from 3 amp tomes than it would from a sheen
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 23 2014 22:58 GMT
#2310
On February 24 2014 07:57 cLutZ wrote:
So I finally found a use for Zephyr outside of 6 item boot replacement on ADCs: Zed when teamfighting is unlikely. I was splitpushing against a Shen, and it was really nice to have the extra MS so I could keep up with him and stop him from escaping, since I usually could not kill him within a death mark. The CDR and tenacity was nice too.

Maybe trolly, but It was a decent 4th item I think. What do yall think?


Neat thought. I can't imagine too much better than that for a 4th or so. I mean, GA if you don't have it, but that's not bad, especially if you don't already have tenacity.

But I also love Zephyr and may not be thinking straight about its possible uses.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 23 2014 23:11 GMT
#2311
On February 24 2014 07:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
i'm not gonna do the math on it but basically every skill she has would benefit more from 3 amp tomes than it would from a sheen

Lux's autos scale from 50-100 while she has an overall 2.05 AP Ratio on her rotation. So this seems about right. In laning phase Sheen would add maybe 30 extra auto damage and a Single Doran Ring would add the equivalent damage to her spell rotation. (Overall damage output would probably be higher with the Doran too because MR is typically lower than Armour.)
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 23 2014 23:20 GMT
#2312
On February 24 2014 07:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 07:57 cLutZ wrote:
So I finally found a use for Zephyr outside of 6 item boot replacement on ADCs: Zed when teamfighting is unlikely. I was splitpushing against a Shen, and it was really nice to have the extra MS so I could keep up with him and stop him from escaping, since I usually could not kill him within a death mark. The CDR and tenacity was nice too.

Maybe trolly, but It was a decent 4th item I think. What do yall think?


Neat thought. I can't imagine too much better than that for a 4th or so. I mean, GA if you don't have it, but that's not bad, especially if you don't already have tenacity.

But I also love Zephyr and may not be thinking straight about its possible uses.


Yea, I was going to go GA, but my team was very flakey and seemed like they just preferred the S3 Spring Dignitas "never end the laning phase" plan.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 24 2014 00:46 GMT
#2313
On February 23 2014 12:22 Gahlo wrote:
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On February 23 2014 11:49 Badboyrune wrote:
Guys you silly. If you are going to get an offensive item on volibear statikk shiv is the only option. I'm pretty sure that's in the summoners code.

Just think about it. You get move speed and attack speed for hitting more and doing more lightning and then you get even more lightning for moving and attacking! It's just a no brainer. Why would you do anything else? I mean more lightning!

I have a friend who quit league because he couldn't build ionic spark on voli anymore. ._.

Ionic Spark was like #1 item on shen/warwick too
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Ballsdeep or afk
Profile Joined November 2013
Great Britain31 Posts
February 24 2014 00:53 GMT
#2314
why dont all the people who loved spark just get shiv
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 24 2014 00:57 GMT
#2315
On February 24 2014 09:53 Ballsdeep or afk wrote:
why dont all the people who loved spark just get shiv

..because spark was health + attack speed + the proc which characters, specifically shen/warwick needed because it had every stat they wanted threw into one item?

Shiv is not even remotely similar
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 01:10:55
February 24 2014 01:08 GMT
#2316
Picking Rengar is like picking Vayne you center your game around it and you need good waveclear and get through early game and then split push. It not really a favoured style among soloq or premades.

Voli top has weak lane clear and has problems vs renekton, mundo and shyvana come mid game because of it.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 24 2014 01:17 GMT
#2317
yea a lot of champs with potential were given the godsend that is hydra to waveclear but unfortunately volibear doesnt benefit much from it. if hydra was good on him he would be a top lane staple.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 24 2014 01:27 GMT
#2318
Eh, not like Sunfire's bad on him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 24 2014 01:59 GMT
#2319
On February 24 2014 09:57 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 09:53 Ballsdeep or afk wrote:
why dont all the people who loved spark just get shiv

..because spark was health + attack speed + the proc which characters, specifically shen/warwick needed because it had every stat they wanted threw into one item?

Shiv is not even remotely similar


They're extremely similar. One has lightning that comes out when you hit stuff and the other has lightning that comes out when you hit stuff. They are practically the same item.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 24 2014 01:59 GMT
#2320
anyone watching this lmq game? all i have to say is gtfo noname
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