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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 16:14:04
February 07 2014 07:20 GMT
#1
Teams: Najin, Samsung Galaxy, Jin Air, CJ Entus, IM, KT and SKT T1
Prize money: 100 Million Won; Winner: 50 Million Won; 2nd: 20 Million Won; 3rd 10 Million Won; Rest 5 Million Won
When: Every Thursday 18:30 KST and Sunday 14:00 KST; Final will be in June

League format:
- Final will be BO5
- 21 Matches in the Season (same as proleague)
- Allstar match will be held twice in the season
- Play off Teams will have an home and away match (Thursday/ Saturday)
- Game 1 Team A, Game 2 Team B, Game 3 Masters Match
- Opening Match will be 13th February

Points:
- 3:0 victory = 3 points, 2:1 victory = 1 point, 1:2 lose -1 point, 0:3 lose -3 points
- Even if the score is 2:0 the Masters match will be played.

Schedule:

Feb. 13. 1. week 1Match Jin Air Green Wings vs CJ Entus
Feb. 16. 1. week 2Match SK Telecom T1 vs IM

Feb. 20. 2. week 1Match KT Rolster vs Najin em-Fire
Feb. 23. 2. week 2Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs Jin Air Green Wings

Feb. 27. 3. week 1Match CJ Entus vs SKTelecom T1
March 2. 3. week 2Match IM vs KT Rolster

March 6. 4. week 1Match Najin em-Fire vs Samsung Galaxy Khan
March 9. 4. week 2Match Jin Air Green Wings vs SK Telecom T1

March 13. 5. week 1Match CJ Entus vs IM
March 16. 5. week 2Match KT Rolster vs Samsung Galaxy Khan

March 20. 6. week 1Match SK Telecom T1 vs Najin em-Fire

April 3. 7. week 1Match IM vs Jin Air Green Wings
April 6. 7. week 2Match Najin em-Fire vs CJ Entus

April 10. 8. week 1Match SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster
April 13. 8. week 2Match IM vs Samsung Galaxy Khan

April 17. 9. week 1Match Jin Air Green Wings vs Najin em-Fire
April 20. 9. week 2Match CJ Entus vs KT Rolster

April 24. 10. week 1Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs SK Telecom T1
April 27. 10. week 2Match Najin em-Fire vs IM

May 1. 11. week 1Match KT Rolster vs Jin Air Green Wings
May 4. 11. week 2Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs CJ Entus

Source: Inven
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
February 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#2
I like.
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Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
February 07 2014 07:44 GMT
#3
Thanks chexx, so hyped
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 07 2014 07:44 GMT
#4
Oh Prime :-(
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 07 2014 07:51 GMT
#5
the rules regarding the Masters match are not really 100% clear if they need to mix their teams or not
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Amarant1995
Profile Joined August 2013
Croatia155 Posts
February 07 2014 08:06 GMT
#6
Well no Prime , WTF??!? I kinda understand why they didnt let Prime play , I think its mainly because they are weak and teams beating Prime would just get free points you know .

But on the other hand I cannot imagine a League with 7 teams ... its just not right , couldnt they get like Alienware or whovere to play in the place of 8th team...
RubberWU
Profile Joined October 2013
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:25:20
February 07 2014 08:22 GMT
#7
The prize money is much lower than Champions.also it isn't related to world finals.
They probably won't take it seriously.
Maybe more unusual picks. Shyvana vs Mundo is so boring
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:29:01
February 07 2014 08:26 GMT
#8
On February 07 2014 17:22 RubberWU wrote:
The prize money is much lower than Champions.also it isn't related to world finals.
They probably won't take it seriously.
Maybe more unusual picks. Shv vs Mundo is so boring


I don't think so. Koreans are pretty big on the integrity of their leagues, and seeing as this is sort of seen as the proleague of LoL I can see the sponsors wanting their teams to take it very seriously. For the most part, Korean sponsors don't really gain anything from a top placing at world's. While its nice and looks good, they'd probably prefer domestic dominance.

I guess Prime isn't participating because they only have one team, but I feel like they could've gotten a team together for the purpose of this league. Maybe it wasn't worth financially..
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 07 2014 08:30 GMT
#9
On February 07 2014 17:26 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 17:22 RubberWU wrote:
The prize money is much lower than Champions.also it isn't related to world finals.
They probably won't take it seriously.
Maybe more unusual picks. Shv vs Mundo is so boring


I don't think so. Koreans are pretty big on the integrity of their leagues, and seeing as this is sort of seen as the proleague of LoL I can see the sponsors wanting their teams to take it very seriously. For the most part, Korean sponsors don't really gain anything from a top placing at world's. While its nice and looks good, they'd probably prefer domestic dominance.

On Twitter, there's clamor that the format is just going to end up being AvA, BvB, and AvA 3rd match.
How likely do you think team will field a team that isn't the A team for the 3rd match?
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 09:24:50
February 07 2014 09:22 GMT
#10
On February 07 2014 17:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 17:26 bokchoi wrote:
On February 07 2014 17:22 RubberWU wrote:
The prize money is much lower than Champions.also it isn't related to world finals.
They probably won't take it seriously.
Maybe more unusual picks. Shv vs Mundo is so boring


I don't think so. Koreans are pretty big on the integrity of their leagues, and seeing as this is sort of seen as the proleague of LoL I can see the sponsors wanting their teams to take it very seriously. For the most part, Korean sponsors don't really gain anything from a top placing at world's. While its nice and looks good, they'd probably prefer domestic dominance.

On Twitter, there's clamor that the format is just going to end up being AvA, BvB, and AvA 3rd match.
How likely do you think team will field a team that isn't the A team for the 3rd match?


if there's no rule set against it, i see it being pretty likely to happen, especially later on in the season when seeding is on the line. maybe early on they'll do some fun teams for the fans, but at the end of the day winning is everything. maybe in the case of like KT, if the rumors are true about KaKAO, we could see KaKAO playing with the bullets line-up or something like that. also, if teams go with a lot of mixed teams for the 3rd set, that will only hurt their team and players in the long run..

i guess something to consider is A and B aren't set right? so i'm sure there will be some line-up mindgaming to try to get favorable match-ups and stuff.
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
February 07 2014 09:28 GMT
#11
I wrote in twitter before, the coaches feel that it would be a good opportunity to see different team builds and possibilities. They also realize that the fans would want to see different line ups so I think they will utilize mixing as they can.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 07 2014 09:31 GMT
#12
Thanks guys.

I personally prefer the tryhard method. I don't wouldn't mind if it was AvA 3rd match every time. Mixed lineup can seem novel and exciting but the lack of practice doesn't convince me the games would be top quality.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 07 2014 09:42 GMT
#13
does this tournament replace the OGN champions?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 07 2014 10:14 GMT
#14
On February 07 2014 18:42 justiceknight wrote:
does this tournament replace the OGN champions?

no will go on parallel
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baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
February 07 2014 10:34 GMT
#15
I was skeptical of this at first as I thought last year's Club Masters was kind of gimmicky, but I'm getting pretty excited now. There's a few things I'm wondering though:

1. I'm assuming that there is only one match per day, as six guaranteed games is a large block of time to get through (no-one who went to Yongsan on the Thursday would be able to stay and get the subway home!) That would explain why they came up with the odd points system; to justify a third game even after a 2:0. But...
2. ...negative points for a loss, is that correct? That seems a little absurd to me. I guess it ultimately doesn't matter, but it just seems to over-complicate things.
3. If this finishes in June, will there be an OGN Spring? When did last year's spring season start?
4. How will Allstar games work? Will they arbitrarily divide the teams into 'conferences' or something?

Anyway, it should be fun. I could see a few of the teams like Samsung and Najin pulling out interesting player combinations for the 'Masters' games. Might try to get along to a Sunday game or two; hopefully this won't be as rabidly popular as Champions and I'll be able to snag a seat without having to wake up at 5 am.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 07 2014 10:54 GMT
#16
2. yes negative points for a loss
3. Spring will start in March somewhere Qualifier dates are posted by me in the korean news thread I believe
4. no idea no information about this yet.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 07 2014 11:14 GMT
#17
Looks exciting. Now skt can win 2 things at once. Tehehe
liftlift > tsm
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
February 07 2014 11:38 GMT
#18
On February 07 2014 19:54 Chexx wrote:
2. yes negative points for a loss
3. Spring will start in March somewhere Qualifier dates are posted by me in the korean news thread I believe
4. no idea no information about this yet.


So OGN Spring will presumably be on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday nights... and this tournament will be on Thursdays and Sundays... I'm not sure my wife will tolerate me watching LoL for five consecutive days every week!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 12:08:00
February 07 2014 12:07 GMT
#19
negative points dont have much influence.


The only difference they make is that a matches against the teams that fight for the same placements are more important.
maybe, im not sure i just woke up.
xinfuh
Profile Joined February 2014
Brazil2 Posts
February 07 2014 14:27 GMT
#20
On February 07 2014 19:34 baekgom84 wrote:
I was skeptical of this at first as I thought last year's Club Masters was kind of gimmicky, but I'm getting pretty excited now. There's a few things I'm wondering though:

1. I'm assuming that there is only one match per day, as six guaranteed games is a large block of time to get through (no-one who went to Yongsan on the Thursday would be able to stay and get the subway home!) That would explain why they came up with the odd points system; to justify a third game even after a 2:0. But...
2. ...negative points for a loss, is that correct? That seems a little absurd to me. I guess it ultimately doesn't matter, but it just seems to over-complicate things.
3. If this finishes in June, will there be an OGN Spring? When did last year's spring season start?
4. How will Allstar games work? Will they arbitrarily divide the teams into 'conferences' or something?

Anyway, it should be fun. I could see a few of the teams like Samsung and Najin pulling out interesting player combinations for the 'Masters' games. Might try to get along to a Sunday game or two; hopefully this won't be as rabidly popular as Champions and I'll be able to snag a seat without having to wake up at 5 am.



MonteCristo said yesterday on MachinimaVS that it would be 2 Bo3 per day.
As for the Allstar game they can take any player from both teams and form a new one to play the third match.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 07 2014 15:20 GMT
#21
On February 07 2014 23:27 xinfuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 19:34 baekgom84 wrote:
I was skeptical of this at first as I thought last year's Club Masters was kind of gimmicky, but I'm getting pretty excited now. There's a few things I'm wondering though:

1. I'm assuming that there is only one match per day, as six guaranteed games is a large block of time to get through (no-one who went to Yongsan on the Thursday would be able to stay and get the subway home!) That would explain why they came up with the odd points system; to justify a third game even after a 2:0. But...
2. ...negative points for a loss, is that correct? That seems a little absurd to me. I guess it ultimately doesn't matter, but it just seems to over-complicate things.
3. If this finishes in June, will there be an OGN Spring? When did last year's spring season start?
4. How will Allstar games work? Will they arbitrarily divide the teams into 'conferences' or something?

Anyway, it should be fun. I could see a few of the teams like Samsung and Najin pulling out interesting player combinations for the 'Masters' games. Might try to get along to a Sunday game or two; hopefully this won't be as rabidly popular as Champions and I'll be able to snag a seat without having to wake up at 5 am.



MonteCristo said yesterday on MachinimaVS that it would be 2 Bo3 per day.
As for the Allstar game they can take any player from both teams and form a new one to play the third match.

you are confusing the allstar match with the masters match.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 07 2014 16:03 GMT
#22
Does Prime really only have one team, as someone said on page 1?
I think if they don't manage to get a foot in the door with LoL soon the future of the organization looks pretty grim, now without Maru. Maybe MKP can make a glorious comeback and carry the team like in the olden days...
RubberWU
Profile Joined October 2013
88 Posts
February 07 2014 16:43 GMT
#23
On February 07 2014 17:26 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 17:22 RubberWU wrote:
The prize money is much lower than Champions.also it isn't related to world finals.
They probably won't take it seriously.
Maybe more unusual picks. Shv vs Mundo is so boring


I don't think so. Koreans are pretty big on the integrity of their leagues, and seeing as this is sort of seen as the proleague of LoL I can see the sponsors wanting their teams to take it very seriously. For the most part, Korean sponsors don't really gain anything from a top placing at world's. While its nice and looks good, they'd probably prefer domestic dominance.

I guess Prime isn't participating because they only have one team, but I feel like they could've gotten a team together for the purpose of this league. Maybe it wasn't worth financially..


In the interview http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1x9tyd/translation_from_lol_masters_media_day_qna/

"Q. When we watch the events, sometimes the same compositions become common and watching it can get boring. Also, sometimes new metas are started abroad and become played in Korea. Will there be any events where foreign teams are also invited to play?

Director Taeju Im: There have been many opportunities that have come up before. If the fans asked Riot for more of these events, more chances would become available for us. The first question you asked is for the reason for why the Masters was created. In the Lol Champs, if you fail one time you could be disqualified, so each team has no choice but to try and find the best way to win. Therefore, they don’t have any chance to be experimental. LoL Masters is different from this. It allows for players to experiment with the picks/bans and lets players be more adventurous."

Korean consider lol Master as a chance to experiment new meta.
they also think common ban/pick is boring to watch.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 12:45:19
February 11 2014 12:42 GMT
#24
Feb. 13. 1. week 1Match Jin Air Green Wings vs CJ Entus
Feb. 16. 1. week 2Match SK Telecom T1 vs IM

Feb. 20. 2. week 1Match KT Rolster vs Najin em-Fire
Feb. 23. 2. week 2Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs Jin Air Green Wings

Feb. 27. 3. week 1Match CJ Entus vs SKTelecom T1
March 2. 3. week 2Match IM vs KT Rolster

March 6. 4. week 1Match Najin em-Fire vs Samsung Galaxy Khan
March 9. 4. week 2Match Jin Air Green Wings vs SK Telecom T1

March 13. 5. week 1Match CJ Entus vs IM
March 16. 5. week 2Match KT Rolster vs Samsung Galaxy Khan

March 20. 6. week 1Match SK Telecom T1 vs Najin em-Fire

April 3. 7. week 1Match IM vs Jin Air Green Wings
April 6. 7. week 2Match Najin em-Fire vs CJ Entus

April 10. 8. week 1Match SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster
April 13. 8. week 2Match IM vs Samsung Galaxy Khan

April 17. 9. week 1Match Jin Air Green Wings vs Najin em-Fire
April 20. 9. week 2Match CJ Entus vs KT Rolster

April 24. 10. week 1Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs SK Telecom T1
April 27. 10. week 2Match Najin em-Fire vs IM

May 1. 11. week 1Match KT Rolster vs Jin Air Green Wings
May 4. 11. week 2Match Samsung Galaxy Khan vs CJ Entus
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manisier
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia240 Posts
February 11 2014 13:15 GMT
#25
April 10. That is all.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 11 2014 13:44 GMT
#26
For anyone who missed the hype:

baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
February 13 2014 07:11 GMT
#27
Does the Dailymotion or Pandora English stream offer HD (I'm willing to pay a subscription), and if so, has anyone in Korea used it and can comment on its quality? I used to use Twitch, but that service has so many issues with connectivity for me that it really wasn't worth it to continue subscribing.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 13 2014 13:12 GMT
#28
On February 13 2014 16:11 baekgom84 wrote:
Does the Dailymotion or Pandora English stream offer HD (I'm willing to pay a subscription), and if so, has anyone in Korea used it and can comment on its quality? I used to use Twitch, but that service has so many issues with connectivity for me that it really wasn't worth it to continue subscribing.

I never got the pandora working. Always got the korean one. Dailymotion wasnt so great sometimes.
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