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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On January 18 2014 19:29 Gahlo wrote: Then beat the ever loving shit out of the Silver 2 guy. I'd love to, but the biggest problem I have is when that duo is on MY team. Ever tried to support a bronze 4 adc? I had to do it TWICE last week. It's infuriating. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On January 18 2014 20:01 Nemireck wrote: I'd love to, but the biggest problem I have is when that duo is on MY team. Ever tried to support a bronze 4 adc? I had to do it TWICE last week. It's infuriating. On the other hand, I've also got some games when the higher ranked duoqueuer just carries hard, and then it results in an easy win. | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
If your rank was determined by your "skill" alone, there would be no reason to make a reset. There is no reset in SC2 because Blizzard knows your ranking matches your skill level exactly if you played about 20 games. I don't really like the fact that Riot flat out admits that there is luck involved in your ranking, and enough of it to justify ELO soft resets on a regular basis. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On January 18 2014 20:07 Maluk wrote: Don't you think that the simple fact that Riot thinks an MMR reset is "necessary" means that the ladder rankings are not worth that much ? If your rank was determined by your "skill" alone, there would be no reason to make a reset. There is no reset in SC2 because Blizzard knows your ranking matches your skill level exactly if you played about 20 games. I don't really like the fact that Riot flat out admits that there is luck involved in your ranking, and enough of it to justify ELO soft resets on a regular basis. The elo resets happened once a year and you make it sounds like it happens a lot more often. Don't you have to play placement games on sc2 a lot more often? Your rating will always involve more luck in a team game, the comparison with an 1v1 game makes no sense to me. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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TokO
Norway577 Posts
On January 18 2014 20:35 NpG)Explosive wrote: The elo resets happened once a year and you make it sounds like it happens a lot more often. Don't you have to play placement games on sc2 a lot more often? Your rating will always involve more luck in a team game, the comparison with an 1v1 game makes no sense to me. For SC2: You only have to play one placement match at the beginning of the season. This has no impact on MMR beyond a normal game, and leaves you where you left off the season before. The only purpose is to take inactive people out of the system. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On January 18 2014 20:07 Maluk wrote: Don't you think that the simple fact that Riot thinks an MMR reset is "necessary" means that the ladder rankings are not worth that much ? If your rank was determined by your "skill" alone, there would be no reason to make a reset. There is no reset in SC2 because Blizzard knows your ranking matches your skill level exactly if you played about 20 games. I don't really like the fact that Riot flat out admits that there is luck involved in your ranking, and enough of it to justify ELO soft resets on a regular basis. the reset cleans up elo decay and smurf accounts draining elo, it isnt there to clean up individual rankings, thats a side effect. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
Everyone's MMR gets closer towards the average (1200) from either end. Then it's literally the same as regular placements. So if you lose game 1, the system thinks you're worse, puts you against 1100's or whatever. You lose game 2, it puts you at 1000, and so on and so forth. So it is very possible to get 7-3 and MUCH lower than you expected if you lost your earlier placement games. Similarly since the Diamonds have been dropping down from diamond to lower rating, it's possible some of them lose their frist few placements against other diamonds dropping them much lower than they "deserve". If you don't want to get weird results from your placements, wait a few days for the ratings to "normalize" and then play them. | ||
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Bumblebee
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 18 2014 21:45 Bumblebee wrote: The soloqueue Udyr trio, haha http://i.imgur.com/LtpX3PI.jpg You guys should make a 3s team. | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 18 2014 21:49 Leonite7 wrote: I have recently got back into League for Season 4, would anyone be able to give me just a quick rundown of the meta? I have heard about some of the more maligned champions this season but I have no clue about anything else champion wise. Cheers. Super tanks are all the rage right now, Mundo and Shyvana in particular. Depending on how long you've been out, the biggest change is probably Annie support. Finished my placements, went 7-3. Got bumped up since last season! Was silver 5, now silver 2. Not much, but still I was expecting to be put back in Bronze. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 18 2014 21:49 Leonite7 wrote: I have recently got back into League for Season 4, would anyone be able to give me just a quick rundown of the meta? I have heard about some of the more maligned champions this season but I have no clue about anything else champion wise. Cheers. Top: Renek Shyv Mundo Nasus Riven (Warwick?) Mid: Kass Ziggs Nid Yasuo Gragas (everyone pretty viable mid) Jungle: Vi Elise (most jungles viable) ADC: Jinx Sivir Lucian Cait (Ez?) Support: Leona Annie Thresh (depends on matchups) It's pretty balanced right now, nobody's blatantly overpowered except maybe Shyvana who just got hit with nerfs. Basically top lane just gets super tanky, mid laners provide utility and/or burst, junglers support the lanes in various ways, and supports engage fights. If I were banning, I'd ban Kass Shyv Yasuo Mundo Riven because I don't like playing against them. I might go for a FP Kass or Shyvana but it's not the end of the world if they're left up. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 18 2014 21:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Top: Renek Shyv Mundo Nasus Riven Warwick Trundle Mid: Kass Ziggs Nid Yasuo Gragas Yasuo (everyone pretty viable mid) Jungle: Vi Elise (most jungles viable) ADC: Jinx Sivir Lucian Cait Varus (Ez?) Support: Leona Annie Thresh (depends on matchups) It's pretty balanced right now, nobody's blatantly overpowered except maybe Shyvana who just got hit with nerfs. Basically top lane just gets super tanky, mid laners provide utility and/or burst, junglers support the lanes in various ways, and supports engage fights. If I were banning, I'd ban Kass Shyv Yasuo Mundo Riven because I don't like playing against them. I might go for a FP Kass or Shyvana but it's not the end of the world if they're left up. Put my additions in bold. Also, add Kass to the list of blatantly overpowered. | ||
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