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On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).
I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS.
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On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).
BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven.
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On February 10 2014 03:48 Fusilero wrote:
I like to believe that they had a choice between paying to fix EUW or paying for riv.
Can this be our stupid thing said of the day?
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On February 10 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs). BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven.
There's a reason why Box Box didn't win best riven NA tourney, can't be the best if you practice playing against shitters.
On February 10 2014 03:59 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs). I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS.
til kaycetron is a "professional player".
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Well she is. She's just not playing the game everyone thinks she's playing.
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Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.
Vayne? Zhonyas.
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On February 10 2014 04:03 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote:On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs). BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven. There's a reason why Box Box didn't win best riven NA tourney, can't be the best if you practice playing against shitters. Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 03:59 Ketara wrote:On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs). I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS. til kaycetron is a "professional player".
Professional streamer would be more accurate IMO.
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On February 10 2014 04:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.
Vayne? Zhonyas.
There is some basis to ADC zhonyas, sort of but it's mostly robertxlee screwing around (Though you can find some advocates for ADC zhonyas if you look around)
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On February 10 2014 03:28 Osmoses wrote:Or, OR... Maybe the nuclear war has started. Anyone else ever think that whenever the servers go down? 
nah I've always thinking that EUW champions only work 9-5 jobs, so it's time they get off work.
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box box is like Diamond 5 last time I checked?
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On February 10 2014 04:11 canikizu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 03:28 Osmoses wrote:Or, OR... Maybe the nuclear war has started. Anyone else ever think that whenever the servers go down? nah I've always thinking that EUW champions only work 9-5 jobs, so it's time they get off work.
It's Europe, the EU champions have unions protecting their right to take breaks.
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On February 10 2014 04:09 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 04:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.
Vayne? Zhonyas. There is some basis to ADC zhonyas, sort of but it's mostly robertxlee screwing around (Though you can find some advocates for ADC zhonyas if you look around)
Well yes, I know that .
He's doing it everytime I open his stream tho. Much baiterino.
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On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though.
rofl
are you serious?
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Is it me or was self-cast changed?
It seems to me that when I use self-cast while my cursor is on a different, valid target, I will cast on that target instead of self-casting. Was it always like that?
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On February 10 2014 04:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Is it me or was self-cast changed?
It seems to me that when I use self-cast while my cursor is on a different, valid target, I will cast on that target instead of self-casting. Was it always like that?
No such thing for me.
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Keep in mind that most of the time when a pro player is smurfing, it's because que times are 30-60 minutes long and it's generally a horrible viewing experience.
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On February 10 2014 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
Keep in mind that most of the time when a pro player is smurfing, it's because que times are 30-60 minutes long and it's generally a horrible viewing experience.
That only applys to a very small amount of players (like wildturtle).
The vast majority of streamers that smurf do it to look good to their stream and get more viewers. Its harder to look like a god playing vs people your level.
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Why dont people play Morgana Support?
I dont get it.
Leona and Thresh and those guys all super popular. So long as your AD not an idiot its like free lane win. All their stuff useless.
Hell, even against Blitzcrank, not another support I'd want. You see that super telegraphed hook? Cool, it useless.
Then lategame, you press R, and when they focus you you Zhonya and autowin.
That being said, you lose pretty hard to like Sona, Zyra, Annie.
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On February 10 2014 04:36 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. rofl are you serious?
Why wouldn't I be serious?
If you're a challenger level player and you're purposefully playing in Silver ELO to get stream views from stomping new players?
Yes, that should be bannable. I'd like to see you argue how that's different from ELO boosting or intentional griefing.
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On February 10 2014 05:26 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 04:36 Paljas wrote:On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.
IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.
It's a complicated topic though. rofl are you serious? Why wouldn't I be serious? If you're a challenger level player and you're purposefully playing in Silver ELO to get stream views from stomping new players? Yes, that should be bannable. I'd like to see you argue how that's different from ELO boosting or intentional griefing.
Better ban wildturtle because he's intentional griefing by stomping challenger players.
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