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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 19:00:05
February 09 2014 18:59 GMT
#4421
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).


I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 09 2014 19:00 GMT
#4422
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).

BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 09 2014 19:03 GMT
#4423
On February 10 2014 03:48 Fusilero wrote:
I like to believe that they had a choice between paying to fix EUW or paying for riv.

Can this be our stupid thing said of the day?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 19:04:20
February 09 2014 19:03 GMT
#4424
On February 10 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).

BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven.

There's a reason why Box Box didn't win best riven NA tourney, can't be the best if you practice playing against shitters.
On February 10 2014 03:59 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).


I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS.

til kaycetron is a "professional player".
liftlift > tsm
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 09 2014 19:08 GMT
#4425
Well she is. She's just not playing the game everyone thinks she's playing.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
February 09 2014 19:08 GMT
#4426
Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.

Vayne? Zhonyas.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Aevera
Profile Joined March 2012
United States105 Posts
February 09 2014 19:09 GMT
#4427
On February 10 2014 04:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).

BoxBox is by far the biggest offender of that, seriously every time he's streaming he's in silver and all his "highlight reals" is outplaying gold leaguers with riven.

There's a reason why Box Box didn't win best riven NA tourney, can't be the best if you practice playing against shitters.
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 03:59 Ketara wrote:
On February 10 2014 03:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

It's actually pretty rare to see pro players actually playing from Bronze to Diamond. Most of the time, it's the non-pro, but high ELO streamers that do the whole bronze to diamond route (since it's easy viewer grabs).


I'd put people like that under the umbrella of "professional players". They make money from playing the game, it's just not through LCS.

til kaycetron is a "professional player".


Professional streamer would be more accurate IMO.
Arev#1139 / LoL: Arev
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 09 2014 19:09 GMT
#4428
On February 10 2014 04:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.

Vayne? Zhonyas.

There is some basis to ADC zhonyas, sort of but it's mostly robertxlee screwing around (Though you can find some advocates for ADC zhonyas if you look around)
Glorious SEA doto
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 09 2014 19:11 GMT
#4429
On February 10 2014 03:28 Osmoses wrote:
Or, OR... Maybe the nuclear war has started.

Anyone else ever think that whenever the servers go down?

nah I've always thinking that EUW champions only work 9-5 jobs, so it's time they get off work.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 09 2014 19:12 GMT
#4430
box box is like Diamond 5 last time I checked?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 09 2014 19:17 GMT
#4431
On February 10 2014 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 03:28 Osmoses wrote:
Or, OR... Maybe the nuclear war has started.

Anyone else ever think that whenever the servers go down?

nah I've always thinking that EUW champions only work 9-5 jobs, so it's time they get off work.


It's Europe, the EU champions have unions protecting their right to take breaks.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
February 09 2014 19:32 GMT
#4432
On February 10 2014 04:09 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 04:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Everytime I watch Robert, he buys a Zhonyas on his ADC.

Vayne? Zhonyas.

There is some basis to ADC zhonyas, sort of but it's mostly robertxlee screwing around (Though you can find some advocates for ADC zhonyas if you look around)

Well yes, I know that .

He's doing it everytime I open his stream tho. Much baiterino.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
February 09 2014 19:36 GMT
#4433
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

rofl
are you serious?
TL+ Member
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 09 2014 19:39 GMT
#4434
Is it me or was self-cast changed?

It seems to me that when I use self-cast while my cursor is on a different, valid target, I will cast on that target instead of self-casting. Was it always like that?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 09 2014 19:43 GMT
#4435
On February 10 2014 04:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Is it me or was self-cast changed?

It seems to me that when I use self-cast while my cursor is on a different, valid target, I will cast on that target instead of self-casting. Was it always like that?

No such thing for me.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 09 2014 19:47 GMT
#4436
Keep in mind that most of the time when a pro player is smurfing, it's because que times are 30-60 minutes long and it's generally a horrible viewing experience.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
February 09 2014 19:53 GMT
#4437
On February 10 2014 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
Keep in mind that most of the time when a pro player is smurfing, it's because que times are 30-60 minutes long and it's generally a horrible viewing experience.


That only applys to a very small amount of players (like wildturtle).

The vast majority of streamers that smurf do it to look good to their stream and get more viewers. Its harder to look like a god playing vs people your level.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 09 2014 20:06 GMT
#4438
Why dont people play Morgana Support?

I dont get it.

Leona and Thresh and those guys all super popular. So long as your AD not an idiot its like free lane win. All their stuff useless.

Hell, even against Blitzcrank, not another support I'd want. You see that super telegraphed hook? Cool, it useless.

Then lategame, you press R, and when they focus you you Zhonya and autowin.

That being said, you lose pretty hard to like Sona, Zyra, Annie.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 20:26:56
February 09 2014 20:26 GMT
#4439
On February 10 2014 04:36 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

rofl
are you serious?


Why wouldn't I be serious?

If you're a challenger level player and you're purposefully playing in Silver ELO to get stream views from stomping new players?

Yes, that should be bannable. I'd like to see you argue how that's different from ELO boosting or intentional griefing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 09 2014 20:31 GMT
#4440
On February 10 2014 05:26 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 04:36 Paljas wrote:
On February 10 2014 01:46 Ketara wrote:
I think it's pretty hard to argue that pro players smurfing and doing these bronze to challenger grinds or whatever repeatedly isn't ruining games for people who are legitimately trying to improve.

IMO Riot should be banning accounts any time a streamer tries to do that, but that's just me. I feel like the integrity of the ranking system is more important than the popularity of the streamers.

It's a complicated topic though.

rofl
are you serious?


Why wouldn't I be serious?

If you're a challenger level player and you're purposefully playing in Silver ELO to get stream views from stomping new players?

Yes, that should be bannable. I'd like to see you argue how that's different from ELO boosting or intentional griefing.

Better ban wildturtle because he's intentional griefing by stomping challenger players.
liftlift > tsm
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