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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 02 2014 22:07 GMT
#3261
I like the +starting gold, but otherwise I agree that defense tree is better.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 02 2014 22:15 GMT
#3262
So there is what I think about Face of the Mountain (FotM for short? Hahaha) vs Talisman.

I think in an ideal situation, Face of the Mountain is stronger. For example, you are playing as Leona, your kog is fed, but your team has low peels and the enemy team has a lot of single target initiation/nuke (think vi + zed + ww or something like that). I think in this scenario the shield is a lot more appealing because your kog will get CCed no matter how much he runs.

The issue I see is can you foresee such a scenario which you win the game if you can protect one person? You have to decide very early in the game if you want to go that route, but the path is not always so clear in the first 5 minutes. Why not just go for Talisman which is far more versatile?

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 22:54:07
February 02 2014 22:53 GMT
#3263
not sure to ask here but I didn't see a general questions and answers thread so I'm just using this. when I watch some pros when they level up they ignore the buttons that pop up on the bottom and the skills seem to automatically level up. how do they do this because I can't figure it out?

hope that makes sense
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
kusu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden440 Posts
February 02 2014 22:54 GMT
#3264
On February 03 2014 07:53 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
not sure to ask here but I didn't see a general questions and answers thread so I'm just using this. when I watch some pros when they level up they ignore the buttons on the bottom and the skills seem to automatically level up. how do they do this because I can't figure it out.


CTRL + Q/W/E/R
Expa bör man annars dör man! A game withouth me, is a game not worth winning!
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 22:56:58
February 02 2014 22:56 GMT
#3265
On February 03 2014 07:54 kusu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 07:53 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
not sure to ask here but I didn't see a general questions and answers thread so I'm just using this. when I watch some pros when they level up they ignore the buttons on the bottom and the skills seem to automatically level up. how do they do this because I can't figure it out.


CTRL + Q/W/E/R


k thanks. I figured it was something simple like that
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 02 2014 23:01 GMT
#3266
On February 03 2014 07:56 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 07:54 kusu wrote:
On February 03 2014 07:53 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
not sure to ask here but I didn't see a general questions and answers thread so I'm just using this. when I watch some pros when they level up they ignore the buttons on the bottom and the skills seem to automatically level up. how do they do this because I can't figure it out.


CTRL + Q/W/E/R


k thanks. I figured it was something simple like that


Yeah do learn to use these. They are very useful and will make you a better player.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 02 2014 23:08 GMT
#3267
youd already be better then a few pros in that regard
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 03 2014 00:03 GMT
#3268
makes it really smooth to all-in at 6 if you're someone who can get a kill off ulting your opponent right as you ding
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 03 2014 00:08 GMT
#3269
On February 03 2014 09:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
makes it really smooth to all-in at 6 if you're someone who can get a kill off ulting your opponent right as you ding

Best trick is leveling it up while stealthed for champions who can. Wukong as an example can take advantage of it.
The legend of Darien lives on
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 03 2014 00:51 GMT
#3270
Superbowl boring for you, maybe you are not american?
Go watch csheep get dumped on by nyjacky!
http://www.twitch.tv/carnivoroussheep
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 03 2014 00:56 GMT
#3271
Why isnt it shift? is shift used for something? XD
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 03 2014 00:59 GMT
#3272
you can rebind them
Also shift is smartcast by default I think
and alt is selfcast
might be the other way around
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 03 2014 01:06 GMT
#3273
Oh right yeah..I used to use the ctrl to level up but im scared of making mistakes lol. Also smartcasting sucks ass too.

Just read the last pages talking about leona / dshield / targons. Someone said leona shouldnt be able to do anything pre-6 no matter what. Wut? Despite items the only saving grace of leona pre-6 is her W-E-Q combo with the bonus armor. Many other supports do alot more. (fucking thresh.) She's terrible at harrassing, is worse at exerting dominance in lane because you either all in or you get laughed at.

You want her to do less? :O
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#3274
he meant against thresh, who has the ability to prevent her E with his flay if he plays well
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 03 2014 01:41 GMT
#3275
So it looks like Vel'Koz (aka Void Ray) is legit and Riot's started doing leaks of stuff related to it, based upon what Reddit has said/data mined.

Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1wtodt/velkoz_teaser_videos/

Reign of gaming post (with other PBE notes): http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/27208-velkoz-confirmed-dorans-shield-nerfs-heading-to
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 03 2014 03:07 GMT
#3276
sun ray
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2014 03:25 GMT
#3277
I'm scared to play Ranked after having not played seriously in like, a month and a half. Time for normals for a while.
It's your boy Guzma!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 03 2014 03:26 GMT
#3278
On February 03 2014 09:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
makes it really smooth to all-in at 6 if you're someone who can get a kill off ulting your opponent right as you ding

You can do some fun stuff with lissandra as well. E through a dying creep to level up, level ulti and go allin. Most people don't expect this and can die pretty easily if they took a bit too much damage pre-6
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 03 2014 03:28 GMT
#3279
On February 03 2014 12:25 Requizen wrote:
I'm scared to play Ranked after having not played seriously in like, a month and a half. Time for normals for a while.


Good for you for playing again.

The toxicity will seep in again.
Hey! How you doin'?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2014 03:29 GMT
#3280
On February 03 2014 12:28 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 12:25 Requizen wrote:
I'm scared to play Ranked after having not played seriously in like, a month and a half. Time for normals for a while.


Good for you for playing again.

The toxicity will seep in again.

Well, I sorta logged in last night to get the Riven and Diana skins.

Obligations and what not >.>
It's your boy Guzma!
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