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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 30 2014 20:06 GMT
#2921
On January 31 2014 04:24 Sufficiency wrote:
I can see that working if your opponent does not move. But without any ranks in E, you can't land Qs because your opponent can move in any direction (instead of backing off from your E)


People have to stop moving to cs. Every cs is at least a 1/2 damage q.

And farming with karthus aa is pretty easy, about like old anivia auto.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 30 2014 20:11 GMT
#2922
For a moment I thought I was in the wrong GD.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 30 2014 20:17 GMT
#2923
Thoughts on Voli top? Obviously standard tank works well on him, can engage in mid wave fights while ignoring minion damage, and the execute on W.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 30 2014 20:34 GMT
#2924
On January 31 2014 05:06 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:24 Sufficiency wrote:
I can see that working if your opponent does not move. But without any ranks in E, you can't land Qs because your opponent can move in any direction (instead of backing off from your E)


People have to stop moving to cs. Every cs is at least a 1/2 damage q.

And farming with karthus aa is pretty easy, about like old anivia auto.

That is harassing. I am talking about level 1 all in as Karthus.... I honestly do not think it works.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 30 2014 21:28 GMT
#2925
On January 31 2014 05:34 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:06 dae wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:24 Sufficiency wrote:
I can see that working if your opponent does not move. But without any ranks in E, you can't land Qs because your opponent can move in any direction (instead of backing off from your E)


People have to stop moving to cs. Every cs is at least a 1/2 damage q.

And farming with karthus aa is pretty easy, about like old anivia auto.

That is harassing. I am talking about level 1 all in as Karthus.... I honestly do not think it works.

It depends on the matchup but its entirely possible. This is especially true because Karthus tends to pack exhaust which he can use as soft CC.

E.G. I am veigar, my team invades. I take E to stun and we get FB. Karthus comes back to lane and all in's me at 1. I've got no damage, only a 1.5 second stun so i've got no pressure against the forward push, exhaust combo.

I was probably out of position, and if i had had my Q it might not have worked. But he sure as shit got my flash and pushed me out of lane. When i came back he was too far ahead to beat.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 30 2014 21:42 GMT
#2926
That is some hypothetical ass hypothetical situation
Bronze player stuck in platinum
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 30 2014 23:22 GMT
#2927
i like how they make sure to tease the renekton skin, hype it up, make sure people buy it, then nerf him after and not before
what a clever business
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
January 30 2014 23:43 GMT
#2928
On January 31 2014 05:34 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:06 dae wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:24 Sufficiency wrote:
I can see that working if your opponent does not move. But without any ranks in E, you can't land Qs because your opponent can move in any direction (instead of backing off from your E)


People have to stop moving to cs. Every cs is at least a 1/2 damage q.

And farming with karthus aa is pretty easy, about like old anivia auto.

That is harassing. I am talking about level 1 all in as Karthus.... I honestly do not think it works.

You just harass them. If they decide to fight back, you can do a all-in to gain advantages since they have to stop to aa/cast to win the trade. Karthus cannot force an all-in for sure , he can only bait one since people are so ignorant about his weird lv 1 power spike.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 31 2014 00:55 GMT
#2929
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 31 2014 00:58 GMT
#2930
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 31 2014 00:59 GMT
#2931
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game

No I mean from losing games
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 31 2014 01:00 GMT
#2932
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.
Steam: rook492
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 31 2014 01:09 GMT
#2933
On January 31 2014 10:00 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.


TL;DR: you will basically never get demoted unless you choose to troll every single game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 31 2014 01:09 GMT
#2934
On January 31 2014 10:00 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.

Thank you very much buddy
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 31 2014 01:37 GMT
#2935
On January 31 2014 08:43 lega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:34 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 31 2014 05:06 dae wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:24 Sufficiency wrote:
I can see that working if your opponent does not move. But without any ranks in E, you can't land Qs because your opponent can move in any direction (instead of backing off from your E)


People have to stop moving to cs. Every cs is at least a 1/2 damage q.

And farming with karthus aa is pretty easy, about like old anivia auto.

That is harassing. I am talking about level 1 all in as Karthus.... I honestly do not think it works.

You just harass them. If they decide to fight back, you can do a all-in to gain advantages since they have to stop to aa/cast to win the trade. Karthus cannot force an all-in for sure , he can only bait one since people are so ignorant about his weird lv 1 power spike.



Oh god, this is true. I remembered trying to all in lvl 1 when I thought I was "ahead" of a Karthus. I landed a skillshot + auto on him when I dodged two Q's. Then he just exhausted me and all in'd. I had to burn my flash cause otherwise I would've been dead. =(
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 31 2014 01:41 GMT
#2936
On January 31 2014 10:09 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 10:00 Crusnik wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.


TL;DR: you will basically never get demoted unless you choose to troll every single game.


Or you got boosted/go on a massive tilt, like hilariously massive
Steam: rook492
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 31 2014 01:49 GMT
#2937
On January 31 2014 10:41 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 10:09 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 31 2014 10:00 Crusnik wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.


TL;DR: you will basically never get demoted unless you choose to troll every single game.


Or you got boosted/go on a massive tilt, like hilariously massive

I think people can tilt and lose that many
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 31 2014 01:57 GMT
#2938
As someone who dropped ~500 elo in a few days in s2 can confirm.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 31 2014 01:57 GMT
#2939
On January 31 2014 10:41 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 10:09 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 31 2014 10:00 Crusnik wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:58 Frolossus wrote:
On January 31 2014 09:55 Yezzus wrote:
Im sure this has been asked so much but I still haven't found a definitive answer. Does anyone know if you can get demoted a tier, like Plat --> Gold? And if so how many times must you lose to actually get demoted?

you can from inactivity
i think its like 1 month or something of not playing a ranked game


From the Ranked FAQ: Last season, you couldn’t be demoted to a lower tier unless you went afk for a long, long time. This season, we’re giving players who’re promoted into division V a shield that stops them from dropping into a lower tier for 10 games. If their MMR falls more than a full tier below their current tier once those 10 games are over, they’ll get a warning on their profile. For example, a Gold V player with a Silver V MMR would get a warning. Continuing to lose games at 0 LP gets them demoted to division I of the next lowest tier – in our example, Silver I.


TL;DR: you will basically never get demoted unless you choose to troll every single game.


Or you got boosted/go on a massive tilt, like hilariously massive

My friend hit his head and got a concussion but didn't realize it was a real concussion. He went on a 50 game losing streak and his MMR dropped from plat to silver.

"I didn't realize it was a concussion... until it went away."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 31 2014 02:02 GMT
#2940
On January 31 2014 10:57 nafta wrote:
As someone who dropped ~500 elo in a few days in s2 can confirm.


To lose 500 Elo you need to lose about 30-40 games. That's almost impossible.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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