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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 19 2013 00:09 GMT
#1261
On December 19 2013 08:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 08:52 RouaF wrote:
Pbe changes too fast... most of it doesn't go live.... I'm not sure it's needed to have a thread about changes that last 24hours. Wait for it to be in the live patch .

I don't think that's true, I feel like a lot of the PBE stuff ends up going live. Easily over 50%

Hmm. If they change the values of a champ twice during PBE, first a hard nerf, then a slight buff so that the overall result is just a slight nerf, do you count that as 100% of that change going live or 50% of that change going live?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
December 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#1262
On December 19 2013 09:09 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 08:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 19 2013 08:52 RouaF wrote:
Pbe changes too fast... most of it doesn't go live.... I'm not sure it's needed to have a thread about changes that last 24hours. Wait for it to be in the live patch .

I don't think that's true, I feel like a lot of the PBE stuff ends up going live. Easily over 50%

Hmm. If they change the values of a champ twice during PBE, first a hard nerf, then a slight buff so that the overall result is just a slight nerf, do you count that as 100% of that change going live or 50% of that change going live?

Yes.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 00:58:40
December 19 2013 00:56 GMT
#1263
On December 19 2013 07:29 phyvo wrote:
Riot is quite aware that PBE testing has its limitations and is mostly about bug fixes/low-level balance. From reading red posts you can't really fault them. That doesn't mean the quality of their balance testing/philosophy isn't above reproach, though.

The thing is PBE doesn't provide users with the tools to do anything BUT test balance changes.

If they're looking for bug-fixes, the tools they provide are pretty limited, seeing as there's no combat log or even test mode that allows you to give levels/gold to quickly test certain interactions repeatedly in a controlled environment. The only real way to practically use PBE is to play out real games, which is not a good way to reproduce potential bugs.
yango pls
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 19 2013 01:08 GMT
#1264
I have this group of friends I play with. 100% of the time we play blind pick normals.
Apparently their normal ELO is so high that we constantly get matched against Diamonds and streamers. Good Lord.



Also I'll say it again, S4 Syndra Support is broken. swim can vouch for me.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 19 2013 01:11 GMT
#1265
On December 19 2013 09:09 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 08:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 19 2013 08:52 RouaF wrote:
Pbe changes too fast... most of it doesn't go live.... I'm not sure it's needed to have a thread about changes that last 24hours. Wait for it to be in the live patch .

I don't think that's true, I feel like a lot of the PBE stuff ends up going live. Easily over 50%

Hmm. If they change the values of a champ twice during PBE, first a hard nerf, then a slight buff so that the overall result is just a slight nerf, do you count that as 100% of that change going live or 50% of that change going live?

This would go against my point, but I still think over half of the changes avoid this. Or maybe I'm wrong, but I follow the PBE blog posts pretty religiously.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
December 19 2013 01:45 GMT
#1266
How is LMQ losing in ranked 5s? Someone said they have no runes and masteries this true? I've seen some LMQ guys play in KR server in challenger but I dont think its the same guys...
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 19 2013 01:47 GMT
#1267
Losing in ranked and not having masteries seems kind of stupid honestly .Dont think runes should be an issue.You can get 4/5 champs and runes from leveling to 30 np.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
December 19 2013 01:52 GMT
#1268
are they still playing from china?
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
December 19 2013 02:10 GMT
#1269
On December 19 2013 10:52 suicideyear wrote:
are they still playing from china?


No from a LAN centre in LA

Reddit link here
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 19 2013 02:18 GMT
#1270
On December 19 2013 10:45 UnKooL wrote:
How is LMQ losing in ranked 5s? Someone said they have no runes and masteries this true? I've seen some LMQ guys play in KR server in challenger but I dont think its the same guys...

Their LoLKing page says they are 17-0

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/49739407#profile
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 19 2013 03:38 GMT
#1271
Has anyone here seen Evelynn's Q on PBE?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 19 2013 04:34 GMT
#1272
On December 19 2013 11:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 10:45 UnKooL wrote:
How is LMQ losing in ranked 5s? Someone said they have no runes and masteries this true? I've seen some LMQ guys play in KR server in challenger but I dont think its the same guys...

Their LoLKing page says they are 17-0

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/49739407#profile


they're 23-1 and the one game they lost they were trolling.. no way in hell would they possibly lose to doomtrobo or dudeimazn in a real game.

in fact the next time the played it was a completely one sided stomp
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 19 2013 05:00 GMT
#1273
On December 19 2013 13:34 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 11:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 19 2013 10:45 UnKooL wrote:
How is LMQ losing in ranked 5s? Someone said they have no runes and masteries this true? I've seen some LMQ guys play in KR server in challenger but I dont think its the same guys...

Their LoLKing page says they are 17-0

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/49739407#profile


they're 23-1 and the one game they lost they were trolling.. no way in hell would they possibly lose to doomtrobo or dudeimazn in a real game.

in fact the next time the played it was a completely one sided stomp

Where is this more reliable data? LoL King has failed me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 19 2013 05:19 GMT
#1274
Played Ezreal the first time after.... 2 years? Dat W so thin wtf... can't hit anything.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 05:42:01
December 19 2013 05:35 GMT
#1275
On December 19 2013 14:19 Sufficiency wrote:
Played Ezreal the first time after.... 2 years? Dat W so thin wtf... can't hit anything.

Nerf nerf nerfnerfnerf nerf.

Should've played him during League of Ezreal era (aka late S2).

AP Ezreal was also borderline viable back when Muramana did magic damage/before stacking nerfs.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 05:46:20
December 19 2013 05:45 GMT
#1276
On December 19 2013 14:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 14:19 Sufficiency wrote:
Played Ezreal the first time after.... 2 years? Dat W so thin wtf... can't hit anything.

Nerf nerf nerfnerfnerf nerf.

Should've played him during League of Ezreal era (aka late S2).

AP Ezreal was also borderline viable back when Muramana did magic damage/before stacking nerfs.


It was an ARAM. I played him AP.

Seriously though I had a far better time playing as Cassiopeia. Cass Q far easier to hit I swear >__>
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 06:03:48
December 19 2013 06:01 GMT
#1277
On December 19 2013 14:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 14:19 Sufficiency wrote:
Played Ezreal the first time after.... 2 years? Dat W so thin wtf... can't hit anything.

Nerf nerf nerfnerfnerf nerf.

Should've played him during League of Ezreal era (aka late S2).

AP Ezreal was also borderline viable back when Muramana did magic damage/before stacking nerfs.

Should have played back when W healed 100% of the damage dealt for allies hit.

TSM looking better than expected in the games I saw of them vs Lemondogs. Dyrus in the second game also showing what Cruzer should have been able to do vs Wickd with that matchup, still beyond me how he didn't.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 06:54:35
December 19 2013 06:54 GMT
#1278
Having Eve unbanned for 3 of my last 4 games makes me long for the days of season 3 when nobody else ever played or banned her.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
December 19 2013 08:23 GMT
#1279
Hmm, anybody played around with jungling Yasuo? Finishing anything that isn't a jungle item first feels pretty squishy or weak from his base stats, but finishing Lizard first pushes back Shiv timing to the point where it doesn't feel like a strong item on it's own, in addition to being a pretty squishy combo. Maybe I need to play around with Golem a bit, but ideas would be helpful
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 19 2013 08:34 GMT
#1280
I've never tried jungle Yasuo, but it seems like Golem would be a decent pickup. He needs the tankiness and Golem's perfect for that.
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