EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 63
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:10 Gahlo wrote: According to Meddler on Annie stun: 1/25/1.5/1.75s (increasing at levels 1/6/11) So it's effectively a pretty big buff to late game annie? Was it really called for, I like harming her laning but it's not like she called for compensatory buffs. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:12 Fusilero wrote: So it's effectively a pretty big buff to late game annie? Was it really called for, I like harming her laning but it's not like she called for compensatory buffs. No, that's a straight nerf. Current is 1.75s stun at all times. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Annie | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:24 sylverfyre wrote: No, that's a straight nerf. Current is 1.75s stun at all times. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Annie I think he's saying that it's an overall buff because she eventually gets the same stun duration but gets huge ult CD buff for late game. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
but annies late game problem is her range not how often she can tibbers. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Annie's more relevant late game cooldown is Flash, not Tibbers. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:29 sylverfyre wrote: If it's "always up anyway" like a lot of people are saying here, then it's not much of a buff, is it? Annie's more relevant late game cooldown is Flash, not Tibbers. pretty much this. Tibbers is almost always already up by the time you get an opportunity to use him again anyway. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:29 sylverfyre wrote: If it's "always up anyway" like a lot of people are saying here, then it's not much of a buff, is it? Annie's more relevant late game cooldown is Flash, not Tibbers. ye, the only time it really matters is when you win a mid game team fight, push through to inhib and then normally have to back off as an annie team because you are shit at that stage of the game without the big bursting effect+ long range stun. having the tibbers cast back a little sooner helps quite a bit in those type situations. but the situations that happen every game, coming back to lane and instantly blowing people up, or just general late game team fights, it makes no difference. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
Current PBE ----- Previous PBE ------ Live Value Omitting the last one makes all the changes too hard to remember and evaluate. I remember missing one PBE release, then seeing that Ryze was getting "buffed" and was like "Why", but really they were reverting a Colossal Nerf to merely a Large Nerf. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
On December 19 2013 06:52 cLutZ wrote: I wish those sites would post like this: Current PBE ----- Previous PBE ------ Live Value Omitting the last one makes all the changes too hard to remember and evaluate. I remember missing one PBE release, then seeing that Ryze was getting "buffed" and was like "Why", but really they were reverting a Colossal Nerf to merely a Large Nerf. Yeah, I made an effort to try and clarify that kind of stuff because of how small the patch was. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
Outer turrets are getting a 20 flat damage damage reduction from champions, but losing 60 armor. Poll: Should I start a PBE discussion thread? Yes (4) No (14) Demacia! (3) 21 total votes Your vote: Should I start a PBE discussion thread? | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
I vote yes so I don't have to read about toxic PBE changes. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On December 19 2013 05:47 Alzadar wrote: Why don't they make it build into Frozen Mallet again, as it should. There's basically no reason for them changing the recipe in the first place. AFAIK no one built FM before the change so that would do nothing but put an icon next to TF that no one is going to use. Actually, maybe I saw some FMs on jungle shyv a long time ago, but that was such a long time ago... I think saint was still jungling. On December 19 2013 07:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: PBE is like the worst thing ever TBH, I really hope Riot has realized that and does not base balance changes on PBE and uses it only as a debug... I vote yes so I don't have to read about toxic PBE changes. Riot is quite aware that PBE testing has its limitations and is mostly about bug fixes/low-level balance. From reading red posts you can't really fault them. That doesn't mean the quality of their balance testing/philosophy isn't above reproach, though. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 19 2013 07:54 AsnSensation wrote: dat face on Diana's first skin since release... Derp face lol if you look at the surrender@20 version where it shows the model in game, it looks really good. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
So confusing when there are several different patches discussed in the same thread. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
On December 19 2013 08:45 LaNague wrote: yes pls, make a PBe thread. So confusing when there are several different patches discussed in the same thread. So far the vote is 3-9(Demacia! is yes  ) so it isn't looking too likely that I'll make one unless Neo wants me to. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 19 2013 08:52 RouaF wrote: Pbe changes too fast... most of it doesn't go live.... I'm not sure it's needed to have a thread about changes that last 24hours. Wait for it to be in the live patch .I don't think that's true, I feel like a lot of the PBE stuff ends up going live. Easily over 50% | ||
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