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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#3801
the tiamat giving you isolated damage is pretty game changing, and it also gives you some extra damage when you jump to someone to amplify your q damage.
Carrilord has arrived.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 18:53:06
January 09 2014 18:52 GMT
#3802
On January 10 2014 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 03:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On January 10 2014 03:21 Scip wrote:
^^^^ the point is to farm jungle

Yeah, he does farm a bit slower at the start, you can't afford to mess up big in the early game because the jungle creeps will dmg you too much then, but if you keep up with the jungle creeps as you should, once you get SotEL+Brutal you just destroy people, you can 1v1 top laners middle laners anything. It's really beast. After lvl11 you grasshopper people it's hilarious.

My opinion is that Kha really wants Tiamat/Hydra before Bruta.

It helps his clear immensely, since it+W autoclears the small creeps allowing for isolation on big creeps.

Immensely important to making his jungle clear insane.

Imo clear speed not too important later on once you get your spiritstone item, due to how conservation stack. And his clear is fast enough with sotel

Yes. Thats why you get Tiamat second after SotEL.

The clear differential is massive. Being able to get an isolated Q basically immediately on a big creep is just huge. Makes your clear-speed lightning fast (wraiths become W+Hydra+AA (+AA)+Q and cleared. instead of spending time AAing the small minions), and makes Kha's jungle sustainability top tier. Plus you can Hydra/Tiamat mid leap. Extra burst for the first reset.

For jungle Kha, there's absolutely no reason to go Brut/Cleaver before Hydra (it's just core), and LW third item is necessary because it's the third item timing. And cleaver isn't as good an item when the passive procs need to be stacked (most of Kha's damage will be focused in those first few spells+AAs) over LW.

Basically, Brut becomes a luxury item on jungle Kha. Standard build path (that Nightblue uses) tends towards SotEL-Hydra-finish boots-LW-GA-???
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 09 2014 18:52 GMT
#3803
[image loading]
Guy A: Piglet
Guy A: Will you win tomorrow?
Piglet: Yeah
Piglet: 3:0
Guy A: oh
Guy A: I will anticipate it
Piglet: I
Guy A: kkkkkkk
Piglet: Even though we win
Piglet: I am underrated
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 19:01:38
January 09 2014 18:53 GMT
#3804
OH MY FCKING GOD
I want this to be real so badly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ut9j9/lmq_tc_tabe/

now only waiting for Uzi to come over in 3months

don't know if this is fake but it's deleted on his twitter
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


E: fuck this shit, fuck Qtpie that troll dude :DD apparently it's his smurf.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 09 2014 19:00 GMT
#3805
There was a thread on Reddit discussing this, it's possible (and IMO more likely) that it's Imaqtpie.

...I forgot what reasoning there was but all I remember is that it's probably just a troll name. IDK tho.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 09 2014 19:02 GMT
#3806
On January 10 2014 03:52 Chexx wrote:
[image loading]
Guy A: Piglet
Guy A: Will you win tomorrow?
Piglet: Yeah
Piglet: 3:0
Guy A: oh
Guy A: I will anticipate it
Piglet: I
Guy A: kkkkkkk
Piglet: Even though we win
Piglet: I am underrated

So true, it hurts.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 19:08:25
January 09 2014 19:03 GMT
#3807
Piglet does feel underrated, as does everyone on that team because of Faker absorbing all the adoration.

+ Show Spoiler +
tbh game 3 last night was one of the few times this season where he won MVP and actually deserved it, he's just so flashy he gets all the attention.
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 09 2014 19:13 GMT
#3808
On January 10 2014 04:00 Dusty wrote:
There was a thread on Reddit discussing this, it's possible (and IMO more likely) that it's Imaqtpie.

...I forgot what reasoning there was but all I remember is that it's probably just a troll name. IDK tho.

http://i.imgur.com/8Gd7CQM.jpg
Yep that's qtpie
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 09 2014 19:22 GMT
#3809
Deficio will be color commentating and analyzing week 1 of EU LCS.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 09 2014 19:28 GMT
#3810
Is Zac any good anymore? I am wondering.

I miss my jungle Zac.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 19:37:22
January 09 2014 19:30 GMT
#3811
On January 10 2014 02:40 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 02:18 Nos- wrote:
There is a mastery for that isn't there? Like if a jungle mob hits you they take 1% of their max hp in damage?


Current HP but yeah tehre's already that mastery, although I never take it because I don't want to accidently take bluebuff from my laner but I think 3% max hp is better than that anyway. (for the 21/9 junglers)

The new Bladed Armor will never kill jungle mobs. You can't accidentally steal blue buff with it. It's really only good against the large jungle monsters.

edit: If I ever steal the first blue with my passive when playing twitch I just tell my jungler thanks! They still get all the XP since I already left leash range.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 09 2014 19:49 GMT
#3812
No sympathy for having first buff accidentally stolen now that there's no reason not to Smite it.
I am the Town Medic.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 09 2014 20:07 GMT
#3813
On January 10 2014 02:34 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 02:20 cLutZ wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:13 Scip wrote:
They shouldn't give sotag minor thornmail effect, because the tradeoff should be between clear speed+dmg vs. survivability. That's one of the interesting things.


Interesting POV. I kinda agree, particularly because offensively built junglers dont really exist anyways. Except Eve, kinda, but Eve feels less strong to me than I anticipated, but that might be the laning meta atm.

Kha'Zix always builds pure dmg, Vi and Elise both can build significant amount of dmg (Lizard Edler+bruta/Spectral Wraith+HG+Sorcs), Amumu is mostly built AP... I definitely wouldn't say that dmg junglers don't exist


You are much better at jangling than me. But Amumu AP is the thing now?

I guess its just my pool of Lee/Mundo/Olaf that is all boring and defensive.
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 09 2014 20:08 GMT
#3814
On January 10 2014 05:07 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 02:34 Scip wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:20 cLutZ wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:13 Scip wrote:
They shouldn't give sotag minor thornmail effect, because the tradeoff should be between clear speed+dmg vs. survivability. That's one of the interesting things.


Interesting POV. I kinda agree, particularly because offensively built junglers dont really exist anyways. Except Eve, kinda, but Eve feels less strong to me than I anticipated, but that might be the laning meta atm.

Kha'Zix always builds pure dmg, Vi and Elise both can build significant amount of dmg (Lizard Edler+bruta/Spectral Wraith+HG+Sorcs), Amumu is mostly built AP... I definitely wouldn't say that dmg junglers don't exist


You are much better at jangling than me. But Amumu AP is the thing now?

I guess its just my pool of Lee/Mundo/Olaf that is all boring and defensive.

Dood I've played with APmumu, it can carry so hard. No one is ever ready for APmumu damages he chunks more than anyone could ever suspect.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 09 2014 20:18 GMT
#3815
On January 10 2014 05:08 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 05:07 cLutZ wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:34 Scip wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:20 cLutZ wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:13 Scip wrote:
They shouldn't give sotag minor thornmail effect, because the tradeoff should be between clear speed+dmg vs. survivability. That's one of the interesting things.


Interesting POV. I kinda agree, particularly because offensively built junglers dont really exist anyways. Except Eve, kinda, but Eve feels less strong to me than I anticipated, but that might be the laning meta atm.

Kha'Zix always builds pure dmg, Vi and Elise both can build significant amount of dmg (Lizard Edler+bruta/Spectral Wraith+HG+Sorcs), Amumu is mostly built AP... I definitely wouldn't say that dmg junglers don't exist


You are much better at jangling than me. But Amumu AP is the thing now?

I guess its just my pool of Lee/Mundo/Olaf that is all boring and defensive.

Dood I've played with APmumu, it can carry so hard. No one is ever ready for APmumu damages he chunks more than anyone could ever suspect.

This is after his q ratio nerf too.
What do you max first on the ap mummy?
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 09 2014 20:31 GMT
#3816
--- Nuked ---
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 20:57:01
January 09 2014 20:52 GMT
#3817
On January 10 2014 05:31 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 04:30 Ghost-z wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:40 AsnSensation wrote:
On January 10 2014 02:18 Nos- wrote:
There is a mastery for that isn't there? Like if a jungle mob hits you they take 1% of their max hp in damage?


Current HP but yeah tehre's already that mastery, although I never take it because I don't want to accidently take bluebuff from my laner but I think 3% max hp is better than that anyway. (for the 21/9 junglers)

The new Bladed Armor will never kill jungle mobs. You can't accidentally steal blue buff with it. It's really only good against the large jungle monsters.

edit: If I ever steal the first blue with my passive when playing twitch I just tell my jungler thanks! They still get all the XP since I already left leash range.


wait what? don't you still steal exp from actually killing the monster? has this been changed?

Well I remember getting the gold from it but I don't think I got the EXP since I was more than a screen away from it when it died. I hit level two at the standard timing. Someone should test it with a ranged jungler (at greater than 400 range) while letting the support tank it.

According to wiki:
The experience is split between allied champion within a 400-unit range, while the gold goes to the last hitting champion. (Exp range used to be 800 before jungle changes)
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 09 2014 20:57 GMT
#3818
Gotta say, I feel like jungle khazix should be built like how Nightblue does it with the Lizard > hydra > boots > LW > GA > whatever. Did a game where I went 5/13/18 on him, only reason my kda was so bad was I was the only person who could initiate on my team, it every time I kept in (usually onto the enemy Gragas) I'd almost instagib Gragas and deal about 30-50% of a persons HP of whoever was around him before I got deleted by Gragas blowing everything on me, so that the rest of my team could win the fight by poking gragas once and then bursting down the next squishiest person (usually their ADC). And if I did happen to get a reset on my E before I died, I'd go insane and leap onto their ADC and try to delete him too with the E - Q + Hydra into point blank W combo.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 09 2014 21:41 GMT
#3819
this might have changed but i am 99% sure that if you kill a monster or minion, no matter where you are on the map you get exp for it.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 09 2014 23:26 GMT
#3820
On January 10 2014 06:41 SagaZ wrote:
this might have changed but i am 99% sure that if you kill a monster or minion, no matter where you are on the map you get exp for it.

I think so too. easy way to test is AP GP and then ult wraiths and see if you get any exp. if you killed a small wraith you should get the exp.
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