EPTOn December 14 2013 14:06 Gahlo wrote:
I'll buy it when Diana is decent again. More importantly, another Riven skin! Woot!
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I'll buy it when Diana is decent again. More importantly, another Riven skin! Woot!
Jungle Diana pretty good.
[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 16
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Celial
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Jungle Diana pretty good. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
He has a lot of things, but his base stats are just awful. Every single one I have seen has just fed hard. I dunno, I dont think glass cannon style melee carries are a thing, and they just dont make sense as one. I dunno, I'd say Shyvana or Nasus much more "melee Carrie." Yasuo is more of a melee do nothing or get blown up. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:14 iCanada wrote: I dont think Yasuo is as OP as was expected. He has a lot of things, but his base stats are just awful. Every single one I have seen has just fed hard. I dunno, I dont think glass cannon style melee carries are a thing, and they just dont make sense as one. I dunno, I'd say Shyvana or Nasus much more "melee Carrie." Yasuo is more of a melee do nothing or get blown up. "Light fighters" as Riot likes to call them always have a rough start. It will take a bit before people understand his limits. Hatespike changed to physical, now Eve can use Lizard again. Riot hates the rest of the league, it's official. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:14 iCanada wrote: I dont think Yasuo is as OP as was expected. He has a lot of things, but his base stats are just awful. Every single one I have seen has just fed hard. I dunno, I dont think glass cannon style melee carries are a thing, and they just dont make sense as one. I dunno, I'd say Shyvana or Nasus much more "melee Carrie." Yasuo is more of a melee do nothing or get blown up. I had one in ranked today who beat a Singed HARD. Like two levels ahead and double the cs at minute seven. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:16 Celial wrote: I had one in ranked today who beat a Singed HARD. Like two levels ahead and double the cs at minute seven. Makes no sense, I don't see any reason for him to do well vs Singed ;S The biggest issue I have is that Q gets dodged. v contribute? | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:15 Shikyo wrote: The trick to Yasuo is to max Q last imo .... that's like saying to max fear then spellshield on nocturne. Or E then W on Renekton. Bad. Bad bad bad, don't do this. Q is Yasuo's only ranged damage and his primary source of damage. Extra points in Windwall aren't anything to go crazy over either. And his E's base damage is really low and the cast time is super high and it's MAGIC damage on someone who needs armorpen. And Yasuo isn't an easy champion by any means, he's definitely got one of the more complex kits. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
You do no damage while dead and building IE on perhaps one of the squishiest melee champions in the game seems like a surefire way to get dead fast. | ||
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lega
Canada290 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
The Q cooldown is only reduced by 1 second total when leveling it. Due to aspd it's less than that, so probably more like 0.15 - 0.2s per level. In addition, it's only a 20 dmg increase per level. If you max the E stacks, it's 140 dmg at level 1 and 180 at level 2. This is some of the highest base damage in the game, which is quite powerful when combined with low cooldown(6 at max, while dealing 300 dmg) and the opponent not getting magic resistance. As for maxing W, it lets you double shield for trades. E in, proc shield, trade, E on 3-4 minions, shield again, trade. That's the experimental part, but I'd definitely max E over Q currently. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:17 Shikyo wrote: Makes no sense, I don't see any reason for him to do well vs Singed ;S The biggest issue I have is that Q gets dodged. v contribute? Singed wanted to get up in his face all the time. Yasuo just bought vamp scepter on first back and spammed Q. Singed squish as fuck before he gets his first one two items. Yasuo was more than willing to brawl with Singed. He also used his dash every time Singed flipped him to get out of the poison trail. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:17 Dusty wrote: .... that's like saying to max fear then spellshield on nocturne. Or E then W on Renekton. Bad. Bad bad bad, don't do this. Q is Yasuo's only ranged damage and his primary source of damage. Extra points in Windwall aren't anything to go crazy over either. And his E's base damage is really low and the cast time is super high and it's MAGIC damage on someone who needs armorpen. And Yasuo isn't an easy champion by any means, he's definitely got one of the more complex kits. You've never seen my AP Nocturne max E for massive fear dmg? | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 14 2013 14:27 Ryuu314 wrote: People seem to think that his passive doubling the power of crit items means he should be buying more offensive items. Personally I think it's the opposite. His passive doubling the power of crit items means he should be spending half as much gold on offensive items in order to get the same amount of dps as other champs. Not the opposite. IE seems like it'd be a neat luxury/snowball buy but as a core I'm kinda dubious. Basically this. I want to try a jungle tank Yasuo with him going Golem or Lizard > Atma > Sunfire/Randuins. Actually, gonna do that now in a bot game, back in 30 min. or so. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Randuin's Omen / Banshee's Veil could be a good combination though | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
IE > Trinity > GA Maybe a Hexdrinker in there at some point. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Atma's+shiv+ridiculous amount of health/resist items as a build? | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 14 2013 15:23 wei2coolman wrote: How low does his CD on his Q get based on AS, and how often can you get nado's off? Atma's+shiv+ridiculous amount of health/resist items as a build? Well, if you get max AS or max CDR, I think I had his Q going off every 1.5s, so a tornado every 4-5s I think if you just mash and hit a target with Q every time? And maybe? I dunno, coming out of jungle it'd be rough. If you were laning then I think you'd have to go Atma > HP+resist item > Shiv > HP+resist item and have Merc Treads for Tenacity so you can be front line tanky and still deal damage and not get hard CCed. | ||
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