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[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 15

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14215 Posts
December 14 2013 02:22 GMT
#281
Here at last here at last Thank god almighty Panth Jungle is here at last.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 02:23:40
December 14 2013 02:23 GMT
#282
On December 14 2013 11:11 sylverfyre wrote:
It's worth noting that TF is only 10% less AS than shiv or bork.


I did try Triforce in a bot game, it felt strong because of how often you get Sheen proc to go off. I dunno, I think I'd need to play more games with him. For now, I'll do a few more bot games, one with him going TF first, the next going Hydra into whatever. Will do a third with Ghostblade into whatever. Might even try a game with him getting Atma's and seeing how that goes.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 14 2013 02:27 GMT
#283
On December 14 2013 11:22 Sermokala wrote:
Here at last here at last Thank god almighty Panth Jungle is here at last.

Will still need blues as much though... Thankfully, there's another manaless champ introduced, so maybe you'll get the blue!
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 14 2013 02:29 GMT
#284
i was actually thinking that since he gets so many free stats (albeit low base damages) that a tanky jungle yasuo could be good, shyvana style poor cc but fast clears and immense scaling

in a bot game with elder lizard and shiv i was blowing people up like nobody's business, stick some tank onto that and we good to go!?
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 02:50:22
December 14 2013 02:49 GMT
#285
Srsface on/

As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv.

Think about it for a moment and get back to me.
/srsface off
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
December 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#286
Yasuo looks like a really cool champion concept. Nothing more. His DPS is waaaaay too situational imho. But a very cool concept nontheless. Which brings up the age old discussion again: Does every champion have to be viable in competitive play? Or can there be very cool, but way too unreliable champions?

For ranked AD hardcarry jungle I'm going to stick with Yi. He can splitpush, backdoor, has two reliable gap closer and reliable burst. Much like Yasuo, with the benefit that its point and click everything with him instead of circumstantial.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 14 2013 03:10 GMT
#287
So for talon ult, can people be hit by more than one blade? I thought they could but then I read more and thought that it was 2 hits max (one going out, one going in). Now i'm confused.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 14 2013 03:25 GMT
#288
On December 14 2013 11:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Srsface on/

As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv.

Think about it for a moment and get back to me.
/srsface off

Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it.

Defend thyself
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 14 2013 03:32 GMT
#289
I think he means thematically.

and yea he feels pretty weak compared to similar options (Fiora/Yi) but perhaps I'm playing him incorrectly. I agree he seems really cool and he's kinda fun but even if somebody finds a way to make him good I doubt he'll be competitively good without a different source of knockup on the team, I've already had one game where I didn't get to ult for like 10 min because I couldn't get a good setup.
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 04:05:50
December 14 2013 03:55 GMT
#290
TF start on Yasuo is ok, Sheen triggers on whirlwind Q, W and E, so there's potential for some massive chunks of damage to occur.

Ghostblade was lols worthy, Q was on a near 1s CD whenever I popped it.

Hydra was rediculously OP. It procs the cleave passive on every Q and the active might as well be another skill he has besides his W. For this game I went Hydra > Shiv > IE and was rolling in gold after I got Hydra.

Atma's has the interesting component of being a potentially good defensive item on him. It gives Armor and Crit, and when combined with his passive means he gets a fair bit more crit than it should, and the Atma passive seems pretty good, because unless you get 100-0'ed you'll be able to get a Q-AA off and potentially deal 400-500 dmg. per hit.
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 04:10:52
December 14 2013 04:09 GMT
#291
On December 14 2013 12:25 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 11:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Srsface on/

As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv.

Think about it for a moment and get back to me.
/srsface off

Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it.

Defend thyself

IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit).

As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB.

Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done.

Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 14 2013 04:16 GMT
#292
Yo that Guan Yu Tryndamere skin tho.....
Forever Young
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 14 2013 04:35 GMT
#293
On December 14 2013 13:09 Magus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 12:25 cLutZ wrote:
On December 14 2013 11:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Srsface on/

As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv.

Think about it for a moment and get back to me.
/srsface off

Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it.

Defend thyself

IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit).

As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB.

Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done.

Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math.

Just going to leave a note that it is also much more expenensive.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 14 2013 04:36 GMT
#294
Wind wall is so fkn stupid lol.
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
December 14 2013 04:39 GMT
#295
am i seeing things or does it block allied champs projectiles anyway


and his ult is still buggy
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 14 2013 04:39 GMT
#296
LUNAR REVEL DIANA!

[image loading]

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/12/1213-pbe-update.html#more
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 14 2013 04:40 GMT
#297
On December 14 2013 13:09 Magus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 12:25 cLutZ wrote:
On December 14 2013 11:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Srsface on/

As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv.

Think about it for a moment and get back to me.
/srsface off

Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it.

Defend thyself

IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit).

As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB.

Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done.

Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math.


This post makes me so happy.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 05:03:01
December 14 2013 05:02 GMT
#298
On December 14 2013 12:10 sob3k wrote:
So for talon ult, can people be hit by more than one blade? I thought they could but then I read more and thought that it was 2 hits max (one going out, one going in). Now i'm confused.


1 in 1 out
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 05:11:47
December 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#299
On December 14 2013 13:39 AsmodeusXI wrote:
LUNAR REVEL DIANA!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/12/1213-pbe-update.html#more

I'll buy it when Diana is decent again. More importantly, another Riven skin! Woot!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 05:13:56
December 14 2013 05:13 GMT
#300
Currently feels like Shiv + Trinity Force + Infinity Edge. The magic dmg of Shiv isn't affected by the reduced crit dmg so you get a 100% chance to deal 250 magic damage with it. Goes 5% above the cap but I still think it's the way to go unless you want to do Shiv + PD without Trinity Force or IE. Shiv recharges extremely quickly because you will be jumping around all the time so it feels like the obvious choice.
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