EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 15
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 14 2013 11:11 sylverfyre wrote: It's worth noting that TF is only 10% less AS than shiv or bork. I did try Triforce in a bot game, it felt strong because of how often you get Sheen proc to go off. I dunno, I think I'd need to play more games with him. For now, I'll do a few more bot games, one with him going TF first, the next going Hydra into whatever. Will do a third with Ghostblade into whatever. Might even try a game with him getting Atma's and seeing how that goes. | ||
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
On December 14 2013 11:22 Sermokala wrote: Here at last here at last Thank god almighty Panth Jungle is here at last. Will still need blues as much though... Thankfully, there's another manaless champ introduced, so maybe you'll get the blue! | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
in a bot game with elder lizard and shiv i was blowing people up like nobody's business, stick some tank onto that and we good to go!? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv. Think about it for a moment and get back to me. /srsface off | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
For ranked AD hardcarry jungle I'm going to stick with Yi. He can splitpush, backdoor, has two reliable gap closer and reliable burst. Much like Yasuo, with the benefit that its point and click everything with him instead of circumstantial. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 14 2013 11:49 Lord Tolkien wrote: Srsface on/ As a basic theorycraft note, Yasuo was designed to want Youmuu's as THE core item in his build. Shiv what Shiv. Think about it for a moment and get back to me. /srsface off Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it. Defend thyself | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
and yea he feels pretty weak compared to similar options (Fiora/Yi) but perhaps I'm playing him incorrectly. I agree he seems really cool and he's kinda fun but even if somebody finds a way to make him good I doubt he'll be competitively good without a different source of knockup on the team, I've already had one game where I didn't get to ult for like 10 min because I couldn't get a good setup. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Ghostblade was lols worthy, Q was on a near 1s CD whenever I popped it. Hydra was rediculously OP. It procs the cleave passive on every Q and the active might as well be another skill he has besides his W. For this game I went Hydra > Shiv > IE and was rolling in gold after I got Hydra. Atma's has the interesting component of being a potentially good defensive item on him. It gives Armor and Crit, and when combined with his passive means he gets a fair bit more crit than it should, and the Atma passive seems pretty good, because unless you get 100-0'ed you'll be able to get a Q-AA off and potentially deal 400-500 dmg. per hit. | ||
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
On December 14 2013 12:25 cLutZ wrote: Why? The active is basically wasted on him since you want as to lower Q cd, and you don't really need ms because of e(at least in bursts). The cdr is situational, because w and r really only benefit from it. Defend thyself IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit). As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB. Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done. Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 14 2013 13:09 Magus wrote: IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit). As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB. Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done. Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math. Just going to leave a note that it is also much more expenensive. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
and his ult is still buggy | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9aaMJqiggQk/UqvYgJwcVUI/AAAAAAAAKmc/QHSVSnS7jbI/s1600/dd.png) http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/12/1213-pbe-update.html#more | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On December 14 2013 13:09 Magus wrote: IE + TF is more damage than IE + GB or IE + Shiv. IE + TF + GB = 100% crit, and with the active you hit harder than a 6 item ADC (with Sheen procs on every other hit). As far as DPS goes (assuming you grab an IE because duh), TF > GB (activated) > Shiv > GB. Also his Q CD is capped at 112% bonus AS, and you get 4% per level (excluding level 1). At level 18 you only need 44% bonus AS to cap out his Q cooldown. TF is 30%, critting 3 times is 15%. Done. Will post my spreadsheet numbers if you guys want to check the math. This post makes me so happy. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 14 2013 12:10 sob3k wrote: So for talon ult, can people be hit by more than one blade? I thought they could but then I read more and thought that it was 2 hits max (one going out, one going in). Now i'm confused. 1 in 1 out | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 14 2013 13:39 AsmodeusXI wrote: LUNAR REVEL DIANA! + Show Spoiler + http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/12/1213-pbe-update.html#more I'll buy it when Diana is decent again. More importantly, another Riven skin! Woot! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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