EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 142
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 02 2014 14:36 phyvo wrote: When I've played Kog in the past I haven't found that his DPS makes up for his lack of kiting ability in league of gap-closers until he hits ADC godlike lategame and can actually mostly kill a tank before they combo him. He doesn't dominate lane either unless you hit R a bunch. Even worse, he only has safe AA range for 8 seconds out of 17 and his only "escape" is a completely ignorable slow. I love Kog but nowadays he simply feels clunky and out of date. Disclaimer, I'm not a great player, I just like Kog a lot. Kog is good vs. Mundo teams that pick one of the weaker laning botlanes (like Non-Annie Ezreal lanes). Otherwise he is a win-more champion, because if you are ahead enough to kill a Shyvana/Riven/Rengar that jumps on you, you are crushing so hard you could be playing Annie or Ziggs as ADC. AP Kog seems similar, but I dont know at all what he does now. Seems like he would take a long time to power up. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On January 02 2014 15:13 cLutZ wrote: Kog is good vs. Mundo teams that pick one of the weaker laning botlanes (like Non-Annie Ezreal lanes). Otherwise he is a win-more champion, because if you are ahead enough to kill a Shyvana/Riven/Rengar that jumps on you, you are crushing so hard you could be playing Annie or Ziggs as ADC. AP Kog seems similar, but I dont know at all what he does now. Seems like he would take a long time to power up. I think you're underrating kog's power spike...vayne doesn't need 5 items to do a ton of damage, just two and kog is the same way. Comparing the ad carry who does more damage than any other adc, who you can (in competitive play if not solo queue) send 2v1 or play a turtle style to win with to ad annie or ziggs is kind of an exaggeration o_O | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
 I haven't played League of Legends for like a year and I'd like to ask what do You build on AP/AD/Supports nowadays? Items to start with? Mid game items? Late game items? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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GTR
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![[image loading]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1504952_516614661769792_255630232_n.jpg) flame 2 good | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On January 02 2014 15:51 Vanka wrote: I think you're underrating kog's power spike...vayne doesn't need 5 items to do a ton of damage, just two and kog is the same way. Comparing the ad carry who does more damage than any other adc, who you can (in competitive play if not solo queue) send 2v1 or play a turtle style to win with to ad annie or ziggs is kind of an exaggeration o_O Kog is the champion I've played the most since patch 3.13 (about 50 games). I'm only a gold player so my experience could be different from yours Vanka. Playing without an escape feels ok most of the time. Sivir/jinx/lucian have been very popular for a couple of months, draven is making a comeback and out this four, only lucian has an escape. Kog is not really at a deficit here. The biggest problem have been the laning phase, playing against jinx/sivir/lucian + thresh/annie/leona is really hard no matter your support. I've accepted the fact that I'll usually lose lane and hope to be more efficient later, but that only works if your other lanes can do fine. I'm also surprised he isn't tried more in competitive play. I won't get a lane swap in solo queue to avoid the current stron botlanes, but that should be a big deal in competitive play. Lastly, I think he is in a better state than vayne at the moment, who according to lolking is still played quite a lot. They share issues during the laning phase, but vayne is worse at dealing with multiple threats (can only condemn one, loses a lot of dps if changing targets, no aoe). | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 02 2014 19:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote: the best way to play kog is to keep dying so you can repeatedly utilize The Best Passive OP strats. Teach me your way sensei. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
Also Madlife cosplay ROFL ![[image loading]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1535659_516614688436456_606464272_n.jpg) | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On January 02 2014 20:45 UmberBane wrote: I saw there is a new LoL streamer featured, Nightblu3, who has a ton of viewers right now (30k). How come I never heard of him before? Is there any more background to him? Also Madlife cosplay ROFL From what I've heard here, high D1(Challenger?) player who spams Elise. Been in the splotlight for about a week or so. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On January 02 2014 14:51 FinestHour wrote: 9 points offense is pretty bad now right supp is the way to go for top lane? it annoys me so much i cant have armor/magic pen with 9 offense now -.- | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On January 02 2014 20:45 UmberBane wrote: I saw there is a new LoL streamer featured, Nightblu3, who has a ton of viewers right now (30k). How come I never heard of him before? Is there any more background to him? Also Madlife cosplay ROFL Basically a super nice guy that have very informative stream. He's been having big stream number for a while now on Twitch. Rank 3 Challenger I think. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 02 2014 21:57 Sufficiency wrote: I also think kog has potential due to his E that is effective against most fotm top laners. But his laning phase... god. Its effective only really against Dr. Mundo... Also Spirit Visage is too good and cuts into your W damage quite a bit. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 02 2014 23:29 cLutZ wrote: Its effective only really against Dr. Mundo... Also Spirit Visage is too good and cuts into your W damage quite a bit. Also strong vs Nasus. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 03 2014 00:15 Alzadar wrote: Problem with Kog for me is the changing ranges is so clunky and 500 range is so very short. I think if you compare him to Jinx (switching between 500/525 and 710/700 range), Kog'Maw is found very wanting. Jinx is super Kog'Maw as I see it. Minus the whole super attackspeed and % health and armor/mr reduction. | ||
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