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http://www.ongamers.com/articles/riot-season-4-lcs-contracts-stipulate-players-cannot-stream-dota-2-blizzard-games/1100-261/
Uh... Seriously? Wtf? That's a bit extreme..
Update: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/riot-season-4-lcs-contracts-stipulate-players-cannot-stream-dota-2-blizzard-games/1100-261/
Update, 2:45PM PST: Director of Esports at Riot Games Whalen 'RiotMagus' Rozelle confirmed in a Reddit thread that the streaming and advertisement restrictions we reported on are, in fact, in place. His comment can be found below:
We say this all the time: we want League of Legends to be a legitimate sport. There are some cool things that come from that (salaried professional athletes, legitimate revenue streams, visas, Staples Center), but there’s also a lot of structural work that needs to be done to ensure a true professional setting.
We recognize there may be some differences of opinion in the perception of pro players’ streams. In the past, pro gamers only had to worry about their personal brands when streaming and, at most, may have had to worry about not using the wrong brand of keyboard to keep their sponsor happy. Now, however, these guys are professionals contracted to a professional sports league. When they’re streaming to 50,000 fans, they’re also representing the sport itself.
I can’t stress enough how these guys in the LCS are on the road to being real, legitimate athletes. This is new territory for a lot of teams (especially in esports), because the transition goes from being a group of talented individuals to being real icons of a sport and a league. Similarly, you probably wouldn’t see an NFL player promoting Arena Football or a Nike-sponsored player wearing Reebok on camera. Pro players are free to play whatever games they want – we’re simply asking them to keep in mind that, on-stream, they’re the face of competitive League of Legends.
Whalen Rozelle
Update, 11:20AM PST: onGamers has confirmed with the team representatives that LCS players are disallowed from streaming the games listed below outright, not just when adjacent to a League of Legends stream. Under Section 3 Rule 4 of the new contract handling 'Non-League Events and Streaming', it states that "... the [LCS] Team shall ensure that, during the Term of this Agreement, its Team Members do not publicly stream gameplay of the titles set forth on Exhibit B". Exhibit B states "the specific restrictions on streaming are set forth in the Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List, as updated by the League from time to time", which is the document listed below.
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This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.
Op needs some work though.
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You should quote the article in your post, like this:
Update, 11:20AM PST: onGamers has confirmed with the team representatives that LCS players are disallowed from streaming the games listed below outright, not just when adjacent to a League of Legends stream. Under Section 3 Rule 4 of the new contract handling 'Non-League Events and Streaming', it states that "... the [LCS] Team shall ensure that, during the Term of this Agreement, its Team Members do not publicly stream gameplay of the titles set forth on Exhibit B". Exhibit B states "the specific restrictions on streaming are set forth in the Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List, as updated by the League from time to time", which is the document listed below. Original Story: With less than three weeks until Riot's Battle of the Atlantic tournament, teams and players are being finalized for Season 4 of Riot's League of Legends Championship Series (LCS). With the new season on the horizon, contracts have been sent out to owners of current LCS teams. onGamers has obtained a section of the 2014 League of Legends Championship Series contracts sent to team owners. In the section we were provided, new regulations are stipulated for what games players can and and cannot stream. The "Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List" states that 'the following companies and/or products are not to be advertised during or adjacent to League of Legends," during the term of the agreement (duration of the contract). onGamers has confirmed with several team representatives that the document provided is real. The most notable games among the restricted list are Dota 2, Hearthstone, World of WarCraft, StarCraft, and the World of Tanks/World of Planes franchises. Gambling and poker websites, including those that do esports betting, are also off limits. Drugs, guns, pornography and tobacco products round out the list of restrictions. The full list can be found from the screenshot of the contract below. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Oi5AZn7.png)
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just shows that they are afraid of SMITE
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On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this:
Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away..
On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE
Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.
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On December 05 2013 04:59 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this: Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away.. Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.
SMITE is quite fun and it is still in beta as of now. They have announced a March release date and a $100k tournament, as well as backing from Tencent.
I find it interesting they are banning tobacco use on stream, but not alcohol.
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This is pretty much why I don't play LoL. The game is fine, I hate Riot with a passion.
This shows how big of an ego Riot has now to attempt to boss their competition around. All of there past about kicking out DotA 2 from venues seems pretty legit now. There is no way Riot can explain this away if it is in their contract.
What a joke, I hope DotA 2 outgrows LoL in the future to put Riot in there place.
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On December 05 2013 04:59 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this: Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away.. Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.
i tried to make a joke. i remember that smite was pretty fucking bad, so my post would have been funnier.
but apparently, it became better
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Still no evidence for that. Nothing but hearsay, lots of hearsay.
This is annoying though. Actual proofz
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I think I find myself in the minority... but I don't care. The primary reason is that they're being paid by Riot. If they were just normal tournaments then I'd think some clause that states you can't stream any of those games or you'll be barred from the tournament would be nutso and ridiculous. As it is, Riot is paying these guys a salary and obviously advertising for rival games isn't in their best interest.
I don't like it; but it's not a big deal as it stands and I understand their reasoning.
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Oh I understand the reasoning, I just don't like it.
I'm fine with alot of things (not the dota2 disbarring for teams, but that was just needless fearmongering since pretty much all the other "sources" outside the initial Scoots rumoring turned out to just be echoing the reddit pitchforkings) but this is kind of petty.
Or maybe they want pros to start streaming LoL TCG when it comes out over hearthstone, who knows
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On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.
Op needs some work though.
Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?
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On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE
No it shows that they are afraid of Land of Chaos online.
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On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.
Op needs some work though. Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?
Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong.
I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.
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On December 05 2013 06:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.
Op needs some work though. Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream? Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong. I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.
Imo it feels normal. If you sign with Nike, you dont wear anything from Adidas. If you are a celeb advertising for Coke, you are not supposed to be seen drinking Pepsi in public. If you are sponsored by Razor, you dont use Steelseries gear in public. It is simple professionalism.
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On December 05 2013 06:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.
Op needs some work though. Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream? Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong. I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.
This is just a byproduct of protecting your own success. Businesses who don't protect themselves are doomed to fail.
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I always have a friend who defends riot for stuff like this, if i bring up the controversy with pendragon, its all just company mentality, i mean who cares about killing esports when your making money? It's still inexcusable and i hope the community slams riot for this.
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What i get from this is that even though it's in the contract, Riot doesn't enforce it? Only on MOBAs?
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On December 05 2013 06:29 FlyingToilet wrote:
I always have a friend who defends riot for stuff like this, if i bring up the controversy with pendragon, its all just company mentality, i mean who cares about killing esports when your making money? It's still inexcusable and i hope the community slams riot for this.
E-sports as a whole profits a lot from LoL's success, no matter if Riot wants it or not.
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