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On December 07 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 12:45 nojitosunrise wrote:On December 07 2013 12:43 wei2coolman wrote:On December 07 2013 12:16 nojitosunrise wrote:Slasher promptly calling Saint out for being wrong http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sa59j/update_on_the_lcs_streaming_policy/cdvhexj[–]Slashered
Saint is wrong. I had this conversation with Saint on Skype yesterday and literally just now but it WAS the contract that was sent from Riot to the team owners to sign. It was not a rough draft that was not yet sent out. There is time for the owners to look it over, possibly come together and talk with Riot about their concerns, but this was still the intended action. If it wasn't, then Riot wouldn't have had their internal discussion and the statements they made on Wed and today. From talking to the owners, they were rather understanding of the contract and most were not going to abstain.
In any case, I think this is obviously a great move all around for the players and esports as a whole. popcorn.gif depends on your point of view. Saint considers anything not signed as still "in negotiation" Slasher considers it finalized if Riot didn't plan on "revising" both are right imo. contracts aren't final until you sign them. Doesn't mean it's in negotiation either.
Everyone consistently ignored how the teams were affected in the same way as the players by the contract. Then when we find out the teams rejected the initial set of terms after getting community support, everyone ignores that.
Probably what happened is a few disgruntled teams intentionally leaked the terms of the contract to Slasher, and hoped that it would generate community outrage so they would have increased bargaining power.
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On December 07 2013 12:57 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On December 07 2013 12:45 nojitosunrise wrote:On December 07 2013 12:43 wei2coolman wrote:On December 07 2013 12:16 nojitosunrise wrote:Slasher promptly calling Saint out for being wrong http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sa59j/update_on_the_lcs_streaming_policy/cdvhexj[–]Slashered
Saint is wrong. I had this conversation with Saint on Skype yesterday and literally just now but it WAS the contract that was sent from Riot to the team owners to sign. It was not a rough draft that was not yet sent out. There is time for the owners to look it over, possibly come together and talk with Riot about their concerns, but this was still the intended action. If it wasn't, then Riot wouldn't have had their internal discussion and the statements they made on Wed and today. From talking to the owners, they were rather understanding of the contract and most were not going to abstain.
In any case, I think this is obviously a great move all around for the players and esports as a whole. popcorn.gif depends on your point of view. Saint considers anything not signed as still "in negotiation" Slasher considers it finalized if Riot didn't plan on "revising" both are right imo. contracts aren't final until you sign them. Doesn't mean it's in negotiation either. Everyone consistently ignored how the teams were affected in the same way as the players by the contract. Then when we find out the teams rejected the initial set of terms after getting community support, everyone ignores that. Probably what happened is a few disgruntled teams intentionally leaked the terms of the contract to Slasher, and hoped that it would generate community outrage so they would have increased bargaining power.
That might very well be what happened.
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So a win for indie sports journalism in the end?
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On December 07 2013 13:26 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 12:57 cLutZ wrote:On December 07 2013 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On December 07 2013 12:45 nojitosunrise wrote:On December 07 2013 12:43 wei2coolman wrote:On December 07 2013 12:16 nojitosunrise wrote:Slasher promptly calling Saint out for being wrong http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sa59j/update_on_the_lcs_streaming_policy/cdvhexj[–]Slashered
Saint is wrong. I had this conversation with Saint on Skype yesterday and literally just now but it WAS the contract that was sent from Riot to the team owners to sign. It was not a rough draft that was not yet sent out. There is time for the owners to look it over, possibly come together and talk with Riot about their concerns, but this was still the intended action. If it wasn't, then Riot wouldn't have had their internal discussion and the statements they made on Wed and today. From talking to the owners, they were rather understanding of the contract and most were not going to abstain.
In any case, I think this is obviously a great move all around for the players and esports as a whole. popcorn.gif depends on your point of view. Saint considers anything not signed as still "in negotiation" Slasher considers it finalized if Riot didn't plan on "revising" both are right imo. contracts aren't final until you sign them. Doesn't mean it's in negotiation either. Everyone consistently ignored how the teams were affected in the same way as the players by the contract. Then when we find out the teams rejected the initial set of terms after getting community support, everyone ignores that. Probably what happened is a few disgruntled teams intentionally leaked the terms of the contract to Slasher, and hoped that it would generate community outrage so they would have increased bargaining power. That might very well be what happened.
Coming from the legal perspective, it is obvious that any contract not yet signed is still under negotiation. Slasher is wrong.
Edit: not that he cares #drama #yolo
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I have huge respect for Slasher since he has done so much for eSports, but honestly everything he says about League and Riot should be taken with a grain of salt. The guy has been pretty anti-League and anti-Riot for years.
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Edit: fuck it, done arguing
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Honestly, if you give the pros a choice between streaming or accepting the Riot salary, the vast majority of them would choose the salary.
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On December 05 2013 16:36 iNteLStyLe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:28 OutlaW- wrote:
I thought this was all common knowledge. I still remember Link stopping his dota 2 stream after getting a message from someone that told him to stop some 10 months ago Any chance there is a vod? Or you know who message was from/what it said
It was on Azubu a really long time ago, like a year or something. I've lost all understanding of time, so yeah. I still remember, he played Kunkka mid lane.
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On December 07 2013 14:33 Sermokala wrote:
So a win for indie sports journalism in the end?
Win-win for both parties.
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Edit: Checked the thread back, the reverse info has already been provided. Sorry ;P
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