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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 29 2013 20:10 GMT
#1921
On November 30 2013 04:53 Alaric wrote:
Wait... Zed clears like a mofo as soon as he builds some AD and he's energy-based, Riven is "lol cooldowns" and can destroy them as soon as he drops them then shield whatever damage he has (she's all AoE so she can even damage him if he stands too close), and Kha'Zix has well enough damage with auto-Q or something to kill turrets early on and it costs very little mana.

I can see him being annoying, but these champions shouldn't be bothered in the slightest by the turrets post first back. ôo


Heimer absolutely destroys Khazix 1v1
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 29 2013 20:19 GMT
#1922
Mind explaining how heimer is supposed to approach that matchup? It seems to a lot of us like he might have trouble vs. mobile damage.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 29 2013 20:28 GMT
#1923
On November 30 2013 05:19 sylverfyre wrote:
Mind explaining how heimer is supposed to approach that matchup? It seems to a lot of us like he might have trouble vs. mobile damage.

He plops down turrets and does his homework in between turret cooldowns.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
November 29 2013 20:30 GMT
#1924
On November 30 2013 04:35 Arisen wrote:
What can you do as a mid laner vs heimerdinger if you can't easily clear his turrets/push him back?

I've been playing almost nothing but really heavy roaming/snowball mid laners lately (Riven, Lee Sin, Khazix, Zed). The champ that is by far giving me the most problems is heimerdinger. I can usually out farm the heimerdinger, but unless he really misplays it there's really not a lot of room to get aggressive on him it seems, so I have no chance to snowball off my lane. ON top of that he just sieges my tower and I dont really have a lot of opportunity to roam. I feel pretty helpless in these situations because the reason I play mid is to have a big impact on the game (I.E. turn around lanes that are losing really bad).

Any tips?


As a xerath main in gold, Heimer is joke to play against. Play passive till you get your first blue / mana items. Once the lane is post six- just nuke him, and his turrets again, and again. Your non W'd q outranges his turrets, once you can W more effectively its just a joke pushing him out of lane. He has zero counterplay against you- provided you can keep range and kite effectively.

Xerath has too much AOE, damage, and range for the non gap closing, short ranged hiem to deal with.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 20:32:22
November 29 2013 20:31 GMT
#1925
On November 30 2013 05:19 sylverfyre wrote:
Mind explaining how heimer is supposed to approach that matchup? It seems to a lot of us like he might have trouble vs. mobile damage.


well I wouldn't approach Donger vs Kha6 any differently than any other Heimer MU. Alaric was thinking that Khazix can clear turrets fast with Auto Q but my experience from both sides of the matchup is that if he does that early levels when autoattacks & minion aggro still hurt (lvl 1-3) he can get zoned for the rest of the laningphase really really hard, especially when Heimer has 2+ turrets setup.
It's not exclusive to Khazix, Donger shits on a lot of mids and as Dusty said if the jungler doesn't gank mid once because of "trololol heimerdinger" mentality, you might be in for a big surprise.

I think if zed uses Q to clear turrets (not even sure if a Q kills them...) he's gonna miss a lot of cs. Not sure about Riven because I always ban her (fuck that champ).

After laning phase those 3 are of course still gonna fuck Heimer up really hard unless they are way too far behind and if they catch you out of position.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 20:46:07
November 29 2013 20:43 GMT
#1926
beating Heimer? Q max annie 1 shot turrets for 0 mana annie doesn't need to max W to push in this match up because heimer can't push without turrets.

also annie has great gank support and heimers escape options are limited.
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GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
November 29 2013 21:42 GMT
#1927
On November 29 2013 23:42 Dusty wrote:
What's funny is that they're wrong and you're trying very hard to not sound stupid (hint: nobody is falling for it)


dusty you're such a fucking gangster why don't you stream more?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
November 29 2013 22:09 GMT
#1928
Anybody else try to play Diana recently and just think to themselves "ugh, what's the fucking point?"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 29 2013 22:13 GMT
#1929
i just skip step 1
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#1930
I'm glad I'm not the only one developing some apathy.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 29 2013 23:17 GMT
#1931
ok wtf how do i turn off the white circle surrounding character
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MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
November 29 2013 23:30 GMT
#1932
On November 30 2013 08:17 FinestHour wrote:
ok wtf how do i turn off the white circle surrounding character


Its only for All for One, so you can tell your guy apart, isn't it?
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 23:48:15
November 29 2013 23:35 GMT
#1933
On November 29 2013 21:46 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 20:08 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 29 2013 17:08 GozoShioda wrote:
i'm trying to pick 3 champs to only play in ranked during season 4

what would be the best way to pick them? based on role? based on AP or AD? based on looks/fun?

when I say 3 champs i literally mean only 3 no matter how many nerfs or buffs they take. I want to stay committed to them; Anyone got any ideas?


Someone like Quinn would probably be a good idea since you'll need an ADC and she can top lane as well. I guess in general you'll want to pick uncommonly played champions so that there's a low chance of them being banned or picked away from you.


when I wanted to narrow down my pool i wouldn't go for weird offensive niche champs but for flexible ones. You should be able to pick them often and they should be very solid and teamoriented:

tanks/bruisers who can jungle and top: nasus, cho etc.
supports who can lane with anyone decently: lulu, sona, janna etc.
other champs who can swap position: zyra, morgana (mid/supp), swain, ryze (mid/top) etc.

Also I would only pick champs who work in virtually any matchup and teamsetup and don't depend on my teammates or opponents picks. For example a champ without CC (yi) or a champ who gets easily counterpicked (kass) or a champ who needs a not so usual play style or position would all be no-go.

basicly it all comes down to this question: Would you like those champions picked by your random teammates?


Yeah, but if you want to literally only play 3 champions, then Quinn is probably one of the best options.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 29 2013 23:39 GMT
#1934
On November 30 2013 08:30 MagnusWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 08:17 FinestHour wrote:
ok wtf how do i turn off the white circle surrounding character


Its only for All for One, so you can tell your guy apart, isn't it?


oh i have no idea LOL i just tried it for the first time today
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
November 30 2013 00:30 GMT
#1935
Looking for a ranged mid to play in prep for next season. Deciding between Ahri, Lissandra, and Syndra. Thoughts?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 30 2013 00:39 GMT
#1936
call me slow, but I've just discovered the wonderful power of mid Pantheon. Boy is he ever fun
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 30 2013 00:40 GMT
#1937
On November 30 2013 09:30 Gahlo wrote:
Looking for a ranged mid to play in prep for next season. Deciding between Ahri, Lissandra, and Syndra. Thoughts?


Karthus/Ori/Anivia is what you should be playing!
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 30 2013 00:41 GMT
#1938
Diaf if you even harbor the thought of playing Anivia.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
November 30 2013 00:43 GMT
#1939
On November 30 2013 09:30 Gahlo wrote:
Looking for a ranged mid to play in prep for next season. Deciding between Ahri, Lissandra, and Syndra. Thoughts?


Syndra, has the longest range of the three. Then I would probably say ahri, then liss. Liss really doesn't have any long range poke at all. (unless you count her q shattering on minions during the lane phase.) Howver beyond that, she has quite a short range.

I am really not that big of a fan of ahri / syndra. However I do play liss time to time. I feel that liss has better escape / mobility than the other two overall. Not to mention that the CC she can bring to the table is second to none.
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#1940
On November 30 2013 09:30 Gahlo wrote:
Looking for a ranged mid to play in prep for next season. Deciding between Ahri, Lissandra, and Syndra. Thoughts?

Syndra. Veigar burst with support levels of cc.
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