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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 03:50:48
December 10 2013 03:49 GMT
#3741
On December 10 2013 11:53 arb wrote:
What exactly makes Taric so broken atm? Havent really been checking forums but im pretty curious


Unkillable walking statstick stunbot tank.

Also, massive armor aura.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 10 2013 03:52 GMT
#3742
On December 10 2013 12:00 SagaZ wrote:
he now scales

You could even say he has a better late game.
God Bless
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2013 03:59 GMT
#3743
On December 10 2013 12:52 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 12:00 SagaZ wrote:
he now scales

You could even say he has a better late game.

Best late game.
Was playing taric, could 1v1 enemy top laner despite them being bullshit fed and farmed.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#3744
On December 10 2013 12:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 12:52 Roffles wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:00 SagaZ wrote:
he now scales

You could even say he has a better late game.

Best late game.
Was playing taric, could 1v1 enemy top laner despite them being bullshit fed and farmed.

Best is that after 6 you can go to lane, instantly stun -> ult combo the opponent laner and force them off the lane. Then after like 20 more seconds your ult is back up because of the cooldown getting reduced so much
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#3745
On December 10 2013 13:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 12:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:52 Roffles wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:00 SagaZ wrote:
he now scales

You could even say he has a better late game.

Best late game.
Was playing taric, could 1v1 enemy top laner despite them being bullshit fed and farmed.

Best is that after 6 you can go to lane, instantly stun -> ult combo the opponent laner and force them off the lane. Then after like 20 more seconds your ult is back up because of the cooldown getting reduced so much

I don't know why it's so satisfying to hit them for true damage autoattacks to death, but it's fucking amazing.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#3746
VES should pick up all the people who got knocked out and put them with Pobelter the god. Mega top, Scubacris/porpoise/laute jungle, any bot lane.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2013 04:36 GMT
#3747
On December 10 2013 13:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
VES should pick up all the people who got knocked out and put them with Pobelter the god. Mega top, Scubacris/porpoise/laute jungle, any bot lane.

They pretty much did that with EG's leftovers.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 10 2013 05:03 GMT
#3748
On December 10 2013 13:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 13:04 Shikyo wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:52 Roffles wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:00 SagaZ wrote:
he now scales

You could even say he has a better late game.

Best late game.
Was playing taric, could 1v1 enemy top laner despite them being bullshit fed and farmed.

Best is that after 6 you can go to lane, instantly stun -> ult combo the opponent laner and force them off the lane. Then after like 20 more seconds your ult is back up because of the cooldown getting reduced so much

I don't know why it's so satisfying to hit them for true damage autoattacks to death, but it's fucking amazing.

Speaking of true damage autoattacks, I was playing Gangplank vs Yi top and fell behind...

It was hilarious when he activated ult and I just peaced out, outran him for over 2 turrets until he turned around.

The lesser known Yi counter - Move faster!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 10 2013 05:17 GMT
#3749
On December 10 2013 10:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 10:17 cLutZ wrote:
On December 10 2013 09:24 Shikyo wrote:
CDR in the masteries is fine but the defensive tree should have something. It makes absolutely no sense that Riot seems to be pushing CDR as a tank stat because so many tanking items have tons of CDR, and then they don't give any for the masteries.


Yeah case in point, if I want an AD carry build with 40% CDR, what do you suppose I'm going to build? Brutalizer, Youmu's, Black Cleaver? They only have one item.


5% + SV as defensive item + Zephyr/Brut = 35.

The problem is the only ADC who building CDR would be very strong on is Ashe. Or maybe the problem is that Zephyr and Ghostblade are just terribly UP items.

I even forgot that Zephyr existed. Hmm, what if -that- gave 15% CDR? Surely it wouldn't be overpowered.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 10:19 Ryuu314 wrote:
Zephyr's not UP, it's just that the stats on it are all pretty luxury and generally redundant. It's a perfectly fine buy in the late game when you're maxing out on slots.

I don't think so. In my opinion, it is actually the worst to buy when you're maxing out on slots because it's so shit for a single slot.


I've only seen Zephyr once recently, built by some jungle Udyr who built it with Wriggles Lantern(and was braindead).

I'm pretty sure I'd still rather lose 8 MR to get 5% CDR than buy a shitty item that has 15% CDR.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2013 05:26 GMT
#3750
Yeah I think Taric is better now because he scales with armor and he does a shitload of damage. He did that in S3 too, but in S3 there were very little gold.

His passive is a bit broken. It has no cooldown, so if you space out your attacks well you can do a lot of damage AND get your stun back quicker.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#3751
On December 10 2013 14:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Yeah I think Taric is better now because he scales with armor and he does a shitload of damage. He did that in S3 too, but in S3 there were very little gold.

His passive is a bit broken. It has no cooldown, so if you space out your attacks well you can do a lot of damage AND get your stun back quicker.


He definitely does more damage than he did in S3.
Hey! How you doin'?
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
December 10 2013 05:36 GMT
#3752
Hey I have a general question about Top lane.

So when you're up against an extreme herbivore (someone like Nasus or Zac, where all they want to do is farm all day) and you're playing a lane bully, when should you start going heavy with the bullying?

Because I feel like levels 1-3 if you try to bully them too much you only end up pushing out the wave and you don't do any meaningful damage to force them out of lane (without truly committing to harass, which can be risky due to junglers and other variables) or be a big enough threat deny them creeps. Not to mention, the creep minions can do bloody murder to you if you're not careful.

So should you wait until like level 4 or something to start harassing? The reason why I wonder this is because trying to harass levels 1-3 doesn't seem to accomplish much (In fact I feel that you're only helping them) but on the other hand, if you're not attacking you're just letting them farm, which is exactly what they want to do.

Any advice would be appreciated. It might just be my imagination however.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 10 2013 05:53 GMT
#3753
Really depends on the champion you're playing. Generally tho you want to start harassing when your champion is the strongest. For example, if you're playing Panth, you wanna start harassing levels 1,3, 5 - basically whenever you level up your Q. If you're playing say Renekton, then you basically harass every time you have 50 fury.

Pushing the wave isn't really a big issue if you are able to shove it to the enemy's tower and keep wards up, which is easy with trinkets. Even if the enemy jungler camps you 'cause you're harassing and pushing hard, as long as you're not feeding away kills it's a net win since that means the other lanes aren't pressured + the jungler isn't clearing camps. As long as you shove it to their tower, they will miss cs and you'll get tower damage with minions. On top of that, depending on what champion you play, you can sometimes harass them under tower.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2013 05:59 GMT
#3754
Play riven. Faceroll at level 1-18. Win lane.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 10 2013 06:13 GMT
#3755
On December 10 2013 14:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Play riven. Faceroll at level 1-18. Win lane.

The only problem I have with playing Riven is that she's banned in 90% of the games.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 10 2013 06:26 GMT
#3756
On December 10 2013 15:13 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 14:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Play riven. Faceroll at level 1-18. Win lane.

The only problem I have with playing Riven is that she's banned in 90% of the games.

Replace Riven with another FOTM manaless toplaner?
Freeeeeeedom
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 10 2013 06:27 GMT
#3757
why not just play renekton wt f
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 06:47:23
December 10 2013 06:34 GMT
#3758
Renekton is gud, never banned and always freewin lane.

We actually had a dude accidentally pick support Renekton when another player already went top and that Renekton dude went like 7-1-15 and carried super hard as support. I think he's viable in like every role.


It's happened to me soooo many times that I'm destroying a Renekton, he's getting constantly pushed off the lane and is at like 100 hp while I'm full. Then he activates ult and is like GYROAAAHHH and stomps the shit out of me.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
December 10 2013 07:09 GMT
#3759
If that happens then you're either:
A) Not destroying the Renekton (just slightly beating him)
B) Playing Fiora after Renekton bought armor
wat
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 10 2013 07:40 GMT
#3760
Hmm I wonder. His ultimate is extremely powerful, and not least because you want to stack armor vs him and it adds the periodical magic damage.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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