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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 08 2013 00:18 GMT
#3461
On December 08 2013 08:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
maybe the lucian in question specced spellblade for some reason?

Been 2 different Lucians though, and it's only for him .-. I'm confused.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 00:22:22
December 08 2013 00:20 GMT
#3462
was he with nami? I choose nami if my ad picks lucian first.

also possible that spellweaving or expose weakness comes up as magic, the talent does not specify
Carrilord has arrived.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 00:32:35
December 08 2013 00:26 GMT
#3463
yay plat 3 achieved. such terror games, i think i prefer it when euw just doesnt work, then you can see the terror before you queue. ive been seeing a ton of jungle amumu recently, did some streamer call it sleeper op or something? he does seem pretty strong late game, but then again he always was. but i hadnt seen him in months ;o.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 08 2013 00:28 GMT
#3464
Looks like the end of the Korean Invasion... for now...
SUNSFANNED
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 08 2013 00:36 GMT
#3465
On December 08 2013 09:28 BrownBear wrote:
Looks like the end of the Korean Invasion... for now...


this is just a group stage they are still in position to qualify unless they lose to complexity, which is possible, but if they win out they will most likely get to play in the next round.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2013 00:42 GMT
#3466
On December 08 2013 08:12 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah, but people wouldn't see that glitch and say "oh he's trash," they'd judge him with the glitch hypothetically gone and then they'd just wait for Riot to hotfix the glitch out.

Very few people can make any sort of accurate judgment of a champ's strength purely on paper like that.

If you told people a month ago that they were fixing that glitch, I'm sure the vast majority would say it won't make a difference.

It's hardly surprising that most people learn to judge things empirically in such a complex game.

I remember for up to 2 patches after the bugfix, people would whine (or taunt, depending on the team) when seeing a Lucian picked, or not doing too well, claim that he's trash because bugged, and look surprised when I tell them it's been fixed already.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 08 2013 00:47 GMT
#3467
On December 08 2013 09:08 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 09:06 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2013 09:00 Bumblebee wrote:
On December 08 2013 08:57 canikizu wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:06 Bumblebee wrote:
9wins in a row... so scared to play my promoseries because it's just bound to go wrong.

Sry for your loss man.
Why do you have such weird mastery pages btw?

What's weird about my masteries?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/23678263#masteries

I think he's talking about 5, 9, and 10.

Page 5 is TheOddOne's masteries for Vi. Page 9 is the support Annie masteries from one of the Korean supports, I don't remember if SKT or CJ. Page 10 was some quick jungle masteries for Olaf...

I only saw the Vi game and noticed the runes and masteries, so I'm not sure lol.
I used to take TheOddOne's mastery build too, but he changes it all the time and some of his build just doesn't make sense. For example, he puts 3 point on +5 MR while the whole meta is AD top/mid, and jungle monsters deal physical damage. I think if you want solid Vi build, you should take it from Meteos or Ciyanide or something. TheOddOne does test build all the time and I think your build may be one of his test build or something.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 08 2013 00:55 GMT
#3468
Tip for junglers who want to win games in soloq: run 21 offense on every jungler, and build fulltank afterwards. Exception, of course, being Evelynn.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 08 2013 00:57 GMT
#3469
21 offense sucks go 21 defense
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 08 2013 00:58 GMT
#3470
On December 08 2013 09:26 turdburgler wrote:
yay plat 3 achieved. such terror games, i think i prefer it when euw just doesnt work, then you can see the terror before you queue. ive been seeing a ton of jungle amumu recently, did some streamer call it sleeper op or something? he does seem pretty strong late game, but then again he always was. but i hadnt seen him in months ;o.

Ah I just got into the series for promotion into plat 3, I guess I'll wait until tomorrow before I give it a shot, though. A bit too tired.

Have had a few minimap teleportation bugs but otherwise it's been working allright(So amumu's portrait appears at our blue and suddenly it teleports to the middle lane and amumu himself is walking there as well).
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2013 01:00 GMT
#3471
On December 08 2013 09:57 Slayer91 wrote:
21 offense sucks go 21 defense

Not going 21 offense on Vi sucks, it really hurts her clear somehow compared to s3.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
December 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#3472
Apparently there's something called lag switching in solo q games where if you go near someone's champion that's lag switching you get dropped. 3 people including me who were around a enemy rengar in our game all stopped and froze in the game and the champions just stood there and got dropped. Damn hacking in hearthstone and now league...not a good week.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 08 2013 01:09 GMT
#3473
On December 08 2013 10:00 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 09:57 Slayer91 wrote:
21 offense sucks go 21 defense

Not going 21 offense on Vi sucks, it really hurts her clear somehow compared to s3.

I've also noticed that if I don't go 21 offense on most junglers that I've tried(I haven't tried many), the clear is far slower. 21 def is okay for Shyvana, though. Her clear's good enough even with 21 def.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 08 2013 01:17 GMT
#3474
On December 08 2013 10:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 10:00 Alaric wrote:
On December 08 2013 09:57 Slayer91 wrote:
21 offense sucks go 21 defense

Not going 21 offense on Vi sucks, it really hurts her clear somehow compared to s3.

I've also noticed that if I don't go 21 offense on most junglers that I've tried(I haven't tried many), the clear is far slower. 21 def is okay for Shyvana, though. Her clear's good enough even with 21 def.

Yeah I don't see the reason to go 21 offensive on Shyvana, Burnout only does 20%bonus damage, so you get like +7 damage when your damage is 150 or something, not worth it.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 08 2013 01:32 GMT
#3475
I feel like the reason most people poo-pooed on Lucian at launch, outside of his bugged Q was that he just didn't impress people with loads and loads of damage like they were used to seeing with ADCs in recent history, or the Ashe/Zyra combo that c9 did. Also keep in mind he was locked from pro play until after Worlds, which is when the Triforce changes occurred. Finally, I feel like the assassin/pick heavy meta made people think that he was bad, even though he has a decent escape skill in his E.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 01:53:12
December 08 2013 01:52 GMT
#3476
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 01:58:07
December 08 2013 01:57 GMT
#3477
On December 08 2013 08:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:16 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:13 freelander wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
suddenly lucian is 2v5 status when a month ago he was a failure along with quinn

this game is stupid


I don't even play LoL, I just follow it from time to time. What happened to him?

He got a few tweaks by Riot.

Those tweaks aren't even what made him good though. He's just as stupid without them.

EDIT: Read "Stupid" as "most fun champion in the game huehuehue"

Double mana glitch gated his ability to dominate lane, which is a huge reason why he's so good now.

Yeah, but people wouldn't see that glitch and say "oh he's trash," they'd judge him with the glitch hypothetically gone and then they'd just wait for Riot to hotfix the glitch out. Champions aren't bad because of glitches, or at least you wouldn't decide that he needed buffs beyond a glitch fix. People who were saying he was bad didn't say that purely because of the glitch, so I think it's a little silly to say that that's why people thought he was bad. His only actual important buff was the mana regen, which definitely helped, but he's not just good because he' a lane bully. He's strong all game, when mana becomes increasingly irrelevant.

Early game affects all stages of the game though.
IIRC everyone was like "whoa his kit looks so cool!"
and then after a week everyone was like "his kit is weak as fuck"
The reason his kit was weak was because of lack of lane dominance meant that he didn't scale as early, thus meaning everything about his kit felt super super weak for the rest of the game.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 02:06:45
December 08 2013 02:06 GMT
#3478
What. Lucian is good at fast push, with his Q and passive, and if he get ahead the Culling actually does decent damage to push people off towers.

His kit felt weak because people actually expected to outtrade people when using his ult at point-blank.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 02:08:55
December 08 2013 02:08 GMT
#3479
On December 08 2013 11:06 Alaric wrote:
What. Lucian is good at fast push, with his Q and passive, and if he get ahead the Culling actually does decent damage to push people off towers.

His kit felt weak because people actually expected to outtrade people when using his ult at point-blank.

How can you fast push if you go oom on him after 2 q casts?
How can you get the culling to do decent midgame damage if you're behind in lane?
Early laning phase is such a big snowball problem for that champ. (pre-changes)
liftlift > tsm
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
December 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#3480
so i read that locodoco scrub already?? what happened?
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