EPTOn December 08 2013 08:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
maybe the lucian in question specced spellblade for some reason?
maybe the lucian in question specced spellblade for some reason?
Been 2 different Lucians though, and it's only for him .-. I'm confused.
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Shikyo
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Been 2 different Lucians though, and it's only for him .-. I'm confused. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
also possible that spellweaving or expose weakness comes up as magic, the talent does not specify | ||
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turdburgler
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Slusher
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On December 08 2013 09:28 BrownBear wrote: Looks like the end of the Korean Invasion... for now... this is just a group stage they are still in position to qualify unless they lose to complexity, which is possible, but if they win out they will most likely get to play in the next round. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 08 2013 08:12 NotYango wrote: Very few people can make any sort of accurate judgment of a champ's strength purely on paper like that. If you told people a month ago that they were fixing that glitch, I'm sure the vast majority would say it won't make a difference. It's hardly surprising that most people learn to judge things empirically in such a complex game. I remember for up to 2 patches after the bugfix, people would whine (or taunt, depending on the team) when seeing a Lucian picked, or not doing too well, claim that he's trash because bugged, and look surprised when I tell them it's been fixed already. | ||
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canikizu
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On December 08 2013 09:08 Bumblebee wrote: Page 5 is TheOddOne's masteries for Vi. Page 9 is the support Annie masteries from one of the Korean supports, I don't remember if SKT or CJ. Page 10 was some quick jungle masteries for Olaf... I only saw the Vi game and noticed the runes and masteries, so I'm not sure lol. I used to take TheOddOne's mastery build too, but he changes it all the time and some of his build just doesn't make sense. For example, he puts 3 point on +5 MR while the whole meta is AD top/mid, and jungle monsters deal physical damage. I think if you want solid Vi build, you should take it from Meteos or Ciyanide or something. TheOddOne does test build all the time and I think your build may be one of his test build or something. | ||
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Dusty
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Slayer91
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Shikyo
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On December 08 2013 09:26 turdburgler wrote: yay plat 3 achieved. such terror games, i think i prefer it when euw just doesnt work, then you can see the terror before you queue. ive been seeing a ton of jungle amumu recently, did some streamer call it sleeper op or something? he does seem pretty strong late game, but then again he always was. but i hadnt seen him in months ;o. Ah I just got into the series for promotion into plat 3, I guess I'll wait until tomorrow before I give it a shot, though. A bit too tired. Have had a few minimap teleportation bugs but otherwise it's been working allright(So amumu's portrait appears at our blue and suddenly it teleports to the middle lane and amumu himself is walking there as well). | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 08 2013 09:57 Slayer91 wrote: 21 offense sucks go 21 defense Not going 21 offense on Vi sucks, it really hurts her clear somehow compared to s3. | ||
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UnKooL
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Shikyo
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On December 08 2013 10:00 Alaric wrote: Not going 21 offense on Vi sucks, it really hurts her clear somehow compared to s3. I've also noticed that if I don't go 21 offense on most junglers that I've tried(I haven't tried many), the clear is far slower. 21 def is okay for Shyvana, though. Her clear's good enough even with 21 def. | ||
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canikizu
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On December 08 2013 10:09 Shikyo wrote: I've also noticed that if I don't go 21 offense on most junglers that I've tried(I haven't tried many), the clear is far slower. 21 def is okay for Shyvana, though. Her clear's good enough even with 21 def. Yeah I don't see the reason to go 21 offensive on Shyvana, Burnout only does 20%bonus damage, so you get like +7 damage when your damage is 150 or something, not worth it. | ||
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Kinie
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krndandaman
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 08 2013 08:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Yeah, but people wouldn't see that glitch and say "oh he's trash," they'd judge him with the glitch hypothetically gone and then they'd just wait for Riot to hotfix the glitch out. Champions aren't bad because of glitches, or at least you wouldn't decide that he needed buffs beyond a glitch fix. People who were saying he was bad didn't say that purely because of the glitch, so I think it's a little silly to say that that's why people thought he was bad. His only actual important buff was the mana regen, which definitely helped, but he's not just good because he' a lane bully. He's strong all game, when mana becomes increasingly irrelevant. Early game affects all stages of the game though. IIRC everyone was like "whoa his kit looks so cool!" and then after a week everyone was like "his kit is weak as fuck" The reason his kit was weak was because of lack of lane dominance meant that he didn't scale as early, thus meaning everything about his kit felt super super weak for the rest of the game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
His kit felt weak because people actually expected to outtrade people when using his ult at point-blank. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 08 2013 11:06 Alaric wrote: What. Lucian is good at fast push, with his Q and passive, and if he get ahead the Culling actually does decent damage to push people off towers. His kit felt weak because people actually expected to outtrade people when using his ult at point-blank. How can you fast push if you go oom on him after 2 q casts? How can you get the culling to do decent midgame damage if you're behind in lane? Early laning phase is such a big snowball problem for that champ. (pre-changes) | ||
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justiceknight
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