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[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 173

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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 07 2013 22:47 GMT
#3441
is ping 55 normal for EU west?

i had 25 before i took a break, my ping to google is also 25.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 22:52:45
December 07 2013 22:51 GMT
#3442
On December 08 2013 07:43 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:16 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:13 freelander wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
suddenly lucian is 2v5 status when a month ago he was a failure along with quinn

this game is stupid


I don't even play LoL, I just follow it from time to time. What happened to him?

He got a few tweaks by Riot.

Those tweaks aren't even what made him good though. He's just as stupid without them.

EDIT: Read "Stupid" as "most fun champion in the game huehuehue"

Double mana glitch gated his ability to dominate lane, which is a huge reason why he's so good now.

Wait what glitch ? Tell me, I suck in lane with him :O


When Lucian came out his Q would randomly cost twice as much mana to cast. And by random I think it was more like "often"

He also did get buffed twice. And other ADCs got nerfed etcetcetc

I wonder when another Quinn buff will happen.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 07 2013 22:51 GMT
#3443
On December 08 2013 07:43 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:16 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:13 freelander wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
suddenly lucian is 2v5 status when a month ago he was a failure along with quinn

this game is stupid


I don't even play LoL, I just follow it from time to time. What happened to him?

He got a few tweaks by Riot.

Those tweaks aren't even what made him good though. He's just as stupid without them.

EDIT: Read "Stupid" as "most fun champion in the game huehuehue"

Double mana glitch gated his ability to dominate lane, which is a huge reason why he's so good now.

Wait what glitch ? Tell me, I suck in lane with him :O

On release his Q would sometimes cost double the amount of mana meaning he would be oom after like 2~3 Q activations. His Q was also really slow on release so enemies would often dodge it without even meaning to.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 07 2013 22:53 GMT
#3444
On December 08 2013 07:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 06:43 Shikyo wrote:
Taric has got to be the strongest lategame carry in the game.

I was 1v4ing the enemy team. Under their own turret. And at that point I was only like 5-6-11

I'm pretty sure taric and lucian can win 2v5 considering how batshit insane both champions are right now.

Supposedly draven making comeback cuz he outbullies jinx and lucian in lane.


Assuming you can keep axes spinning non-stop then yes, he bullies the shit out of Jinx and Lucian in lane and gets a bigger AD spike with a BT or IE due to how you normally max Q first on him, so his AA's do like 150-200 a chunk with every caught axe.

As for the mana glitch, at launch Lucian's Q would sometimes cost double. Also, his double shot AA wouldn't move the second shot to another enemy if the first shot killed enemy #1, so it was wasted dps. And I think Sheen wasn't proccing right on his AA as well, though I could be wrong with that one.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 07 2013 23:08 GMT
#3445
On December 08 2013 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:16 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:13 freelander wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
suddenly lucian is 2v5 status when a month ago he was a failure along with quinn

this game is stupid


I don't even play LoL, I just follow it from time to time. What happened to him?

He got a few tweaks by Riot.

Those tweaks aren't even what made him good though. He's just as stupid without them.

EDIT: Read "Stupid" as "most fun champion in the game huehuehue"

Double mana glitch gated his ability to dominate lane, which is a huge reason why he's so good now.

Yeah, but people wouldn't see that glitch and say "oh he's trash," they'd judge him with the glitch hypothetically gone and then they'd just wait for Riot to hotfix the glitch out. Champions aren't bad because of glitches, or at least you wouldn't decide that he needed buffs beyond a glitch fix. People who were saying he was bad didn't say that purely because of the glitch, so I think it's a little silly to say that that's why people thought he was bad. His only actual important buff was the mana regen, which definitely helped, but he's not just good because he' a lane bully. He's strong all game, when mana becomes increasingly irrelevant.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 07 2013 23:12 GMT
#3446
Yeah, but people wouldn't see that glitch and say "oh he's trash," they'd judge him with the glitch hypothetically gone and then they'd just wait for Riot to hotfix the glitch out.

Very few people can make any sort of accurate judgment of a champ's strength purely on paper like that.

If you told people a month ago that they were fixing that glitch, I'm sure the vast majority would say it won't make a difference.

It's hardly surprising that most people learn to judge things empirically in such a complex game.
yango pls
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2013 23:22 GMT
#3447
Speaking of Lucian, why does his death recap say his basic attacks deal mixed damage? If his passive is magical, well..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 07 2013 23:35 GMT
#3448
On December 08 2013 08:22 Shikyo wrote:
Speaking of Lucian, why does his death recap say his basic attacks deal mixed damage? If his passive is magical, well..

Fucked up masteries and spellblade?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 23:42:50
December 07 2013 23:42 GMT
#3449
On December 08 2013 08:22 Shikyo wrote:
Speaking of Lucian, why does his death recap say his basic attacks deal mixed damage? If his passive is magical, well..


Sheen proc?

*edit I'm dumb only LB deals magic dmg.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 07 2013 23:48 GMT
#3450
maybe the lucian in question specced spellblade for some reason?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2013 23:52 GMT
#3451
E max nami + sheen first lucian is pretty hilarious if you want to see an adc "combo" for over half of the other adc's lifebar.
Carrilord has arrived.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 07 2013 23:55 GMT
#3452
Promotion ruined by leaver and a top lane Ryze with 40 CS after 20 minutes... Amazing~
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2013 23:56 GMT
#3453
what was he vs.?
Carrilord has arrived.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#3454
Renekton who I ganked twice and killed both times with Vi.. He was 1-0-1...
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#3455
On December 08 2013 07:06 Bumblebee wrote:
9wins in a row... so scared to play my promoseries because it's just bound to go wrong.

Sry for your loss man.
Why do you have such weird mastery pages btw?
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 00:03:49
December 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#3456
On December 08 2013 08:57 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:06 Bumblebee wrote:
9wins in a row... so scared to play my promoseries because it's just bound to go wrong.

Sry for your loss man.
Why do you have such weird mastery pages btw?

What's weird about my masteries?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/23678263#masteries
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#3457
On December 08 2013 08:55 Bumblebee wrote:
Promotion ruined by leaver and a top lane Ryze with 40 CS after 20 minutes... Amazing~


Don't worry, given the amount you're winning you should be right back in the promo series before too long
SUNSFANNED
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 08 2013 00:06 GMT
#3458
On December 08 2013 09:00 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 08:57 canikizu wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:06 Bumblebee wrote:
9wins in a row... so scared to play my promoseries because it's just bound to go wrong.

Sry for your loss man.
Why do you have such weird mastery pages btw?

What's weird about my masteries?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/23678263#masteries

I think he's talking about 5, 9, and 10.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 08 2013 00:08 GMT
#3459
On December 08 2013 09:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 09:00 Bumblebee wrote:
On December 08 2013 08:57 canikizu wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:06 Bumblebee wrote:
9wins in a row... so scared to play my promoseries because it's just bound to go wrong.

Sry for your loss man.
Why do you have such weird mastery pages btw?

What's weird about my masteries?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/23678263#masteries

I think he's talking about 5, 9, and 10.

Page 5 is TheOddOne's masteries for Vi. Page 9 is the support Annie masteries from one of the Korean supports, I don't remember if SKT or CJ. Page 10 was some quick jungle masteries for Olaf...
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 08 2013 00:15 GMT
#3460
hard to say off the cuff, you kinda need tear + Glacial to be up in that match up, although with tear you are at least even so he got out played for sure.

mabye he just is bad.
Carrilord has arrived.
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