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On November 20 2013 06:06 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 04:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 20 2013 04:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On November 20 2013 04:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On November 20 2013 04:13 canikizu wrote: Do we call characters in Smite heroes, champions or gods? i propose we call them gods in dota, heroes in league, and champions in smite to piss off all three demographics zhong kui is obscure as fuck lol surprised he's a character only so many god-things to go through i mean fucking slacker religion christianity only has 1 wtf it's even 1 when it's 3 which is like a joke can you imagine the uproar if they implemented Jesus??? lol This could probably spawn a conversation worth moving to the OT thread, but that would certainly be pretty hypocritical of us(not saying it wouldn't happen, it would). When another culture gets angry about the depiction of their deity(Muhammad) we brush it off and laugh about it, but don't you dare turn Jesus into a video game character!
Well, more because the game is set around "mythology", and that would certainly piss people off if Hi-Rez was like "yo, this jesus dude is a myth".
I'm sure the uproar would be very large if Mohammed or another "current god" were depicted in a game about mythological battle between religions.
I personally think it would be hilarious.
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There were issues with some of the Hindu gods being implemented, but that was mainly over Kali's dress over the fact that they were in a game. As a Christian, I don't get offended when Christian ideology gets implemented in games. I rather enjoy the DMC games and Bayonetta, as well as things like Darksiders.
There would likely be less grumbling over an Archangel like Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, or Raphael being implemented.
Posted this in OT, new patch. I'll update the respective gods changed when I get a chance.
There's a new patch that should come out relatively soon.
Rundown for those of you interested:
+ Show Spoiler +-Vulcan rework, lost AoE turret but gained his old dash and a new AoE knockback, ult buffed. -AMC nerfed fairly significantly on both passive and Hives -Fist of the Gods nerfed -Aphro Knockback changed (buff/nerf) -Arachne buffed ult -Ares slightly buffed -Athena ult nerfed -Bastet minor damage buff -Chang'e slightly buffed -Chronos Accelerate nerfed -Cupid buffed -Freya ult slightly nerfed -Mercury ult slightly nerfed -Odin buffed/nerfed -Vamana minor buff -Zeus damage nerf, utility change (2 stronger at early ranks) -Zhong Kui nerf to passive protections and ult (no longer heals allies)
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On November 20 2013 06:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 06:06 red_ wrote:On November 20 2013 04:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 20 2013 04:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On November 20 2013 04:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On November 20 2013 04:13 canikizu wrote: Do we call characters in Smite heroes, champions or gods? i propose we call them gods in dota, heroes in league, and champions in smite to piss off all three demographics zhong kui is obscure as fuck lol surprised he's a character only so many god-things to go through i mean fucking slacker religion christianity only has 1 wtf it's even 1 when it's 3 which is like a joke can you imagine the uproar if they implemented Jesus??? lol This could probably spawn a conversation worth moving to the OT thread, but that would certainly be pretty hypocritical of us(not saying it wouldn't happen, it would). When another culture gets angry about the depiction of their deity(Muhammad) we brush it off and laugh about it, but don't you dare turn Jesus into a video game character! Well, more because the game is set around "mythology", and that would certainly piss people off if Hi-Rez was like "yo, this jesus dude is a myth". I'm sure the uproar would be very large if Mohammed or another "current god" were depicted in a game about mythological battle between religions. I personally think it would be hilarious.
I get that there are differences, I'm just saying that we still don't have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to getting bent out of shape about the depiction of other religious figures/deities, because we've doled it out pretty good the other direction(and it's not just that South Park episode).
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quoting you from OT Req as I think this should be our hub for Smite discussion
On November 20 2013 06:15 Requizen wrote: Changing Bees! and Hive is mostly an early game nerf, I'd argue. His mid/late game power should remain relatively the same.
Hive nerf is insane. Having both the cooldown doubled and the hives available halved completely torches his mobility (which is already limited to only running fast - he has no other escapes). It definitely hurts more late game, when you want to be moving around a lot. Also, having a 16s cooldown is stupid because they are incredibly easy to kill with auto attacks.
The Bees! nerf is reasonable, although kinda makes him have almost no passive now.
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Possibly, but I'm still ok with it. Hives right now don't feel like they require a lot of decision making, you just kind of throw them down willy nilly wherever and it's fine because you have another one in a couple seconds. Feels like now you hold onto the Hive until you're sure in your positioning.
You really shouldn't have issues with MS later in the game, I'd argue. Heartseeker, Fatalis, and Golden Bow are all good items on him, and of course you can grab Sprint if you don't need both Aegis and Beads.
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I mean, you're wrong. The point is to create a network of hives that you can utilize. I'm fine with a 16s CD if they left it at 8 hives. Then you can throw them down less often. They literally made the skill 4x worse.
And it's not about have MS issues. It's the fact that his only mobility is through his hives. Think of the other hunters. They have escapes or something that they can utilize to help escape (Artemis and Pumba). AMC's 3 slows a little, but not a whole lot. He really relies on having that extra MS for chase and retreat.
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Time will tell. His the steroids that Hives give already make him fairly strong in comparison to other hunters, and his self peel in 3 and 4 are nothing special, but nothing to sneeze at either.
I was under the impression that he was far and away the best hunter pick in the game at the moment, while the nerf may have been a bit harsh I think some sort of change was warranted. If it's too much they'll change him back.
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We'll see. I'll prob still give him play cuz BEEEEEEES and his 2 and 3 are really freaking good.
I guess I'm just confused because I haven't seen much higher level play, and I rarely see him in our games.
edit: also, I'm sad cuz bees
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Uh, if you want mythologies and shit implemented you have Atlus' SMT games. It's not like the archangels, Metatron, Satan, Lucifer, and Lilith are all classified as different races/species of "demons" along with Hindu, Norse, Japanese, European mainland, etc. deities, heroes and mythos and you often end up either working with the totalitarian lawful "God" faction or the libertarian "survival of the fittest" demonic one in most of these games, when you don't outright kill Yavhe.
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Sorry to ask, but is it free to play? Can I just go to their site and start playing once I got the client LoL style?
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United States15536 Posts
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Yes, it's free to play. There are 5 gods that are unlocked for every account, and 5 more on a rotation. Favor and Gems are IP and RP respectively, so you can unlock all gods (and recolor skins) without ever paying a cent.
That said, many people, including myself, paid for the $30 "God Pack", which unlocks all current gods and gives you immediate access to all released gods in the future. It's a very good deal if you want to make a one time expenditure.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 20 2013 04:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 04:25 Requizen wrote: I would assume that many of the gods are obscure if you don't know the lore. I don't recognize any of the Hindu or Mayan gods.
Also Guan Yu isn't technically a god in the traditional sense. Yeah, Hercules really isn't either... O_o Hercules ascended into Olympus after death IIRC, making him a god despite genetically being only a demigod.
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On November 21 2013 00:35 Requizen wrote: Yes, it's free to play. There are 5 gods that are unlocked for every account, and 5 more on a rotation. Favor and Gems are IP and RP respectively, so you can unlock all gods (and recolor skins) without ever paying a cent.
That said, many people, including myself, paid for the $30 "God Pack", which unlocks all current gods and gives you immediate access to all released gods in the future. It's a very good deal if you want to make a one time expenditure.
Makes sense ! I'll DL it tonight and see how I feel about it, I'd like to have another new game at hand for the couple-geeking-nights with milady, and Smite looks terribly cool from what I saw :D
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SMITE IS SO GOOD OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE
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So do you use your levels for anything, like in LoL? I see there are champion specific levels, but what do the other levels do?
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Getting to 30 unlocks Leagues (Ranked). That's about it.
Once you get to god level 1, you can buy the Golden skin for that god, which then you get the Legendary skin for free at god level 10.
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If you get 30 before beta ends (I have no idea if there's a proposed date for this) then you get the Cacodemon skin for Ymir, which is pretty bad ass.
I think Neith is gonna be my Ah Muzen Cab replacement for now. She's definitely on the strong side, and her ult is crazy good.
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