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Korea (South)11232 Posts
You all followed probably on Reddit that the Korean Government (Family & Gender ministry) called Riot for a hearing about youth protection.
I didnt mention it here because I thought its just venting air but now it has real consequences.
Riot needs to close their fan art page/ restrict access on www.leagueoflegends.co.kr because some fan art which was not suited for minors was posted on it. Riot said that they didnt expect it and will take measure to change it.
Because of the addiction problem Riot may need to implent more stuff (cooling off time) but not yet certain.
The Korean government also said that the real reason is they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
Source: This is game
On November 09 2013 03:33 joohyunee wrote:
Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth."
Hope that clarifies.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass
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Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass
added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다."
If I mistranslated it tell me
On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company.
Nexon for example is a korean game company
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On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company.
Was thinking the same. Even Blizzard is based in the US and they started the starcraft trend, so i don't see how this is becoming a problem for the Korean government now?
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source.
ah thanks. Though why would the korean government have a stint with a foreign game company being the #1 game company? that sounds really aloof from them
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On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company
I had to go google what the hell is nexon, so maplestory is theirs and that's about it?
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haven't Blizzard been the biggest game company in korea? or do they mean employ wise?
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
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ncsoft is also korean - lineage 2, aion, and blade & soul are all games of theirs that are/have been popular in korea
as for why the government might care that a foreign game is dominating the market, gaming is part of the 'culture' industry (along with more recognized exports like kpop) that the south korean government promotes/protects
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
Question is more what will happen from now on if Riot can fight the sentence
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Making stupid laws for foreign companies in Korea in order to push them out and give an edge to Korean companies is a really common thing that the Korean government does a lot in every domains.
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That's quite shocking. I guess I was super naive in my image of Korea, with KeSPA being a government organization and all.
Oh and for the PC rating thing. I believe the last time LoL wasn't #1 was the week Diablo 3 was released, but they were back very soon and haven't been off it since. Or something like that. 
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Korea (South)1087 Posts
On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company
Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth."
Hope that clarifies.
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As I said in the other thread: Couldn't they make Riot Korea more Korean-ish somehow? Probably a foolish thing of me to ask, but to heck with it.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 09 2013 03:33 joohyunee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth." Hope that clarifies.
Yeah but no korean online game has the cooldown feature ^^ so the government is still bullshitting
On November 09 2013 03:36 UmberBane wrote:
As I said in the other thread: Couldn't they make Riot Korea more Korean-ish somehow? Probably a foolish thing of me to ask, but to heck with it.
only possible if they change the ownership ot a korean one
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This is pretty silly. Though I'm not completely surprised.
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On November 09 2013 03:33 joohyunee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth." Hope that clarifies.
Yeah, how dare the non-Korean company have a sole, and lead game on the charts! Clearly Korea needs top everything to combat this monopoly! We're not going to pay attention to the fact the NA LCS and Coke Zero seems to have kickstarted esports in NA!
This entire thing seems to ass backwards to me that it's insulting. I guess I should boycott Korean games/teams/players and support the amateur scene even harder in spite. That's the message SK seems to be giving me.
Disclaimer: This is intended to be an aggressively toned post, but it isn't meant to be aimed at you. It's only so I can quote the translation.
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On November 09 2013 03:36 UmberBane wrote:
As I said in the other thread: Couldn't they make Riot Korea more Korean-ish somehow? Probably a foolish thing of me to ask, but to heck with it.
Yes, they can go the route Valve went and partner with a Korean company. Nexon is responsible publishing Dota 2 in Korea.
Riot Korea is the main organization in charge of LoL in Korea, but they're still a subsidiary of Riot.
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That seems like a pretty asinine solution to be honest.
While it is an independant country and they have every right to protect their own companies, the way they are going about it is so fucking illogical.
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What is the main reason of them demanding to close a fanart site? Is it pornographic related issue or just a culture nationalism conflict?
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as far as i know, Chinese government used same method against foreign gaming company.
also, all foreign gaming in China needs to get partnered with Chinese gaming company.
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FWIW, Riot is majority owned by Tencent, a Chinese company.
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On November 09 2013 04:44 emucxg wrote:
as far as i know, Chinese government used same method against foreign gaming company.
also, all foreign gaming in China needs to get partnered with Chinese gaming company.
You're right, it sounds exactly like communism :3
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Im a korean lol fan. i'll tell you guys a truth...
the main point is, governments are lier.
they referred about foreign games, but their lots of insisting is pointing korean online games, too.
here, they are also insisting that game is as dangerous as cigarette, alchol, and drug...
and because of a new law including that(progressing discussion in gov...), all game company in korea would have to give 6% of their total selling money per year.
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On November 09 2013 04:44 emucxg wrote:
as far as i know, Chinese government used same method against foreign gaming company.
also, all foreign gaming in China needs to get partnered with Chinese gaming company.
It's different in China. It's less about xenophobia and more about connections and money. Money is always king in China and having a Chinese partner means more cuts for everyone involved. Korea is about being "respectable" in its official image and extremely arbitrary behind the scenes.
Korea is just xenophobic/patriotic - two sides of the same coin here.
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you guys told about nexon few times.
restrictly, nexon is not a korean company now.
actually, nexon has lots of child company, and....maybe last year or before, the japanese company(nexon japan) became their head company. We're guessing they fought with gov, or predicted this situation...
in korea, also, we have a department called "ministry of gender equality"blahblah.
they always insist that for their yearly money, but, their real name is yer-sung-boo, translated "department for woman." in English. lots of korean agree that the company is trash and useless. these all situation are from in te department
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i rarely come here, so, if someone want to know more, give me an email
simplegg@naver.com
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On November 09 2013 10:40 1ntrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 04:44 emucxg wrote:
as far as i know, Chinese government used same method against foreign gaming company.
also, all foreign gaming in China needs to get partnered with Chinese gaming company. It's different in China. It's less about xenophobia and more about connections and money. Money is always king in China and having a Chinese partner means more cuts for everyone involved. Korea is about being "respectable" in its official image and extremely arbitrary behind the scenes. Korea is just xenophobic/patriotic - two sides of the same coin here.
Which is honestly ironic because you can't name a chaebol which hasn't had a corrupt asshat for a CEO
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The Korean government takes these really weird measures when it comes to patriotic matters and economic policies, as well as that darned ministry. I don't know too much about them, but I don't think they're going the right direction...
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I thought Riot was owned by a Chinese company. Tencent. What's the point of closing down a Western company owned by a Chinese company? Seems silly.
I'm pretty sure Riot KR headquarters gives Koreans jobs. Who cares if Riot is a Korean company? It benefits the Korean economy as much as that of any other company.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 09 2013 14:04 obesechicken13 wrote:
I thought Riot was owned by a Chinese company. Tencent. What's the point of closing down a Western company owned by a Chinese company? Seems silly.
I'm pretty sure Riot KR headquarters gives Koreans jobs. Who cares if Riot is a Korean company? It benefits the Korean economy as much as that of any other company.
But the profits dont neccessarily stay in Korea.
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On November 09 2013 10:48 simplegg wrote:
you guys told about nexon few times.
restrictly, nexon is not a korean company now.
actually, nexon has lots of child company, and....maybe last year or before, the japanese company(nexon japan) became their head company. We're guessing they fought with gov, or predicted this situation...
in korea, also, we have a department called "ministry of gender equality"blahblah.
they always insist that for their yearly money, but, their real name is yer-sung-boo, translated "department for woman." in English. lots of korean agree that the company is trash and useless. these all situation are from in te department
Thank you for registering on TL and giving us some additional info.
On November 09 2013 10:48 simplegg wrote:
in korea, also, we have a department called "ministry of gender equality"blahblah.
Btw that sentence sound so Korean/netizen- typical, it's beautiful.
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On November 09 2013 16:10 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 14:04 obesechicken13 wrote:
I thought Riot was owned by a Chinese company. Tencent. What's the point of closing down a Western company owned by a Chinese company? Seems silly.
I'm pretty sure Riot KR headquarters gives Koreans jobs. Who cares if Riot is a Korean company? It benefits the Korean economy as much as that of any other company. But the profits dont neccessarily stay in Korea.
That makes sense.
But it will only hurt the good of esports in the long run if a game can't be popular just because it was made by another country.
Imagine if everyone were forced to only play games made in their country. No Esport would ever gain recognition on a global scale and unify people from different countries.
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I wouldn't be that worried about this. Riot just needs to spend more on lobbying when compared to their competitors in Korea. Riot is starting to have a significant effect on Korean companies so that logically means more government lobbying.
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On November 09 2013 03:33 joohyunee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth." Hope that clarifies.
Based on this, it sounds like the Korean government want Riot to have the same obligations/etc that Korean companies have with regard to the responsibilities to Koreans.
Blizzard already do this with limits on when you can play etc (people have had issues with playing in foreigner online tournaments after midnight, like Maru I think).
It seems like they are just saying that Riot can't be allowed to be a western company operating in Korea unless they adhere to the same rule as a Korean company, as otherwise this disadvantages the Korean companies.
Making Riot have to do the same stuff as a Korean company doesn't favour domestic companies, it levels the playing field.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 09 2013 23:46 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 03:33 joohyunee wrote:On November 08 2013 23:45 Chexx wrote:On November 08 2013 23:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 08 2013 23:42 Chexx wrote:
The Korean government also said that they can't allow a foreign game company to become number 1 game company in Korea.
uhh, source on that? That just seems pulled straight out of the ass added Source "조 보좌관은 “오진호 대표를 국정감사에 소환한 진짜 이유는 외산 게임의 독주를 견제하기 위함이다. 외국 업체들에게 국내업체가 부담하는 사회적 의무를 지게 만들어 국내 게임업체의 성장을 돕기 위한 의도였다”고 강조했다." If I mistranslated it tell me On November 08 2013 23:45 daemir wrote:
Huh, which korean gaming company has been #1 then? I can't even name a korea gaming company. Nexon for example is a korean game company Just to clarify the translation. "the real reason we (the government) summoned representative Oh was to stand against the monopolization of a foreign company (on Korean soil). We wanted to give the foreign companies to bear the same responsibilities that the domestic companies bear, to promote their (domestic companies) growth." Hope that clarifies. Based on this, it sounds like the Korean government want Riot to have the same obligations/etc that Korean companies have with regard to the responsibilities to Koreans. Blizzard already do this with limits on when you can play etc (people have had issues with playing in foreigner online tournaments after midnight, like Maru I think). It seems like they are just saying that Riot can't be allowed to be a western company operating in Korea unless they adhere to the same rule as a Korean company, as otherwise this disadvantages the Korean companies. Making Riot have to do the same stuff as a Korean company doesn't favour domestic companies, it levels the playing field.
Riot already does the same as evry other game company
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