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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 70

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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 03:43:25
November 04 2013 03:42 GMT
#1381
On November 04 2013 12:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Jax now can burst 33% stronger with spellbade procs.

Like the old run in and smack someone under turret then leap strike out wasn't really mana efficient, but buffing the damage by that much makes it that much more efficient and effective.

v Yeah Nami OP

33%?

On November 04 2013 12:38 Ketara wrote:
Soniv is 1 game from Diamond, we're all on TS trashtalking him. Come it's fun.

Teamspeak?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
November 04 2013 03:43 GMT
#1382
On November 04 2013 12:33 krndandaman wrote:
my god caitlyn zyra bot is impossible to play against... especially with a non-sustain support.

Tell me about it. Its a real oain in the ass, and whrre Ashe is usually fine against Caitlyn trades, the threat potential of Zyra and her own range makes even that matchup hard. That combo and the general frequency I'm up against Cait is the reason I finally started practicing Draven.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 04 2013 04:25 GMT
#1383
On November 04 2013 12:33 krndandaman wrote:
my god caitlyn zyra bot is impossible to play against... especially with a non-sustain support.

Corki+Annie seem strong enough to hold against that lane.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 05:00:01
November 04 2013 04:59 GMT
#1384
On November 04 2013 12:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 12:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Jax now can burst 33% stronger with spellbade procs.

Like the old run in and smack someone under turret then leap strike out wasn't really mana efficient, but buffing the damage by that much makes it that much more efficient and effective.

v Yeah Nami OP

33%?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 12:38 Ketara wrote:
Soniv is 1 game from Diamond, we're all on TS trashtalking him. Come it's fun.

Teamspeak?


100% to 200% of base auto. You W, auto-reset and get the extra damage in.

33% isn't right, sorry my thought process is off. But the extra auto's worth of damage in trades is really nice.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 04 2013 05:07 GMT
#1385
On November 04 2013 06:01 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 05:57 TheYango wrote:
On November 04 2013 04:52 Slusher wrote:
it's conceivable.

honestly the way Korean teams looked at worlds (good but not god mode) I feel like the playing field could be pretty even if the ability to practice with Asian teams at lan speed was available to top NA/EU teams, unfortunately it is not.

Why the fuck does it matter if you play on LAN ping?

Just play on foreign servers and scrim. If you are good enough to have a chance, you won't get stomped hard enough that you don't learn a lot, which means it will be worthwhile. If you're getting stomped so hard that you don't learn anything, then you're not close enough in skill for you to have a chance anyway.

It's what the Koreans teams did when there were like only 3 relevant Korean teams--they scrimmed on NA, lost every game, but improved.

The problem with that tho is are you going to get relevant teams to want to scrim? Most top Korea teams have sister teams to scrim with and i doubt there eager to practice with foreign teams.

I don't think NA would be able to make it work with Korean teams. The ones they want to scrim with would probably find nothing out of doing so unless it's times of convenience, like worlds. TSM had a great opportunity to scrim with EU teams when they lived in NY, because the East Coast => EUW ping isn't too much higher than East Coast => West Coast. Of course, now that NA teams have to orbit around the LCS studio, that nearly doubles. Until NA gets at least a bit better, I don't see them being able to scrim with anything below 2nd teir Asian teams, of course then you have to deal with account status issues.

On November 04 2013 08:46 Numy wrote:
Dyrus seems the epitome of inconsistent. He almost always chokes when it matters and does well when it doesn't. Hmm maybe that means he is consistent then just in a bad way?

Dyrus' issue is ALWAYS motivation. When Dyrus first joined TSM, he knew he was behind the ball compared to competitive teams, so he busted his ass and became godlike as far as toplane in NA goes. Then people realised it. With Regi TSM, Dyrus had to be PERFECT. If TSM was going to win, Dyrus had to do well because Regi wasn't able to be as impactful as he used to be. They knew it, the other teams knew it, hell we knew it.

Now, if you're playing TSM, what are you going to do as an NA team? Are you going to camp Dyrus? Have fun watching Burger King make your mid jealous of his supports income while Turtle Hamster at least go even. What's OddOne going to do? Probably camp top too and countergank you all lane.

Dyrus won't have to feel like he has to be perfect and won't be restricted on his champ selection because bJergersen might aswell be a swiss(it's what it's called, I know he's a Dane.) army knife in mid.

The only team I see TSM having issues with is C9 and that's only if they don't fix their pick/ban phase.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 04 2013 05:18 GMT
#1386
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1pux9y/cj_entus_facebook_promotion_if_they_can_get_20k/

WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 04 2013 05:24 GMT
#1387
bjergsen is a downgrade from reginald

eagerly awaiting tsm not making playoffs for the first time in years

cant even chant TSM TSM anymore rip regi
TranslatorBaa!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 04 2013 05:26 GMT
#1388
On November 04 2013 14:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
bjergsen is a downgrade from reginald

eagerly awaiting tsm not making playoffs for the first time in years

cant even chant TSM TSM anymore rip regi


hey now u cant just give opinions without supporting them with strong evidence and logical reasoning and hard equations and rational thinking
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 04 2013 05:27 GMT
#1389
On November 04 2013 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 14:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
bjergsen is a downgrade from reginald

eagerly awaiting tsm not making playoffs for the first time in years

cant even chant TSM TSM anymore rip regi


hey now u cant just give opinions without supporting them with strong evidence and logical reasoning and hard equations and rational thinking


TSM TSM
TranslatorBaa!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 05:29:18
November 04 2013 05:28 GMT
#1390
Honestly, the best thing that can be done now is to dump the bottom half of the LCS or relegate them to the challenger/ semi-pro circuit, then ban any trades between the two tiers.

Random idea:
Everyone plays together, but wins are weighted:
LCS > LCS: 0.75 pt
Challenger > LCS 1 pt
LCS > Challenger 0.5 pt

Or something like that.

At the end of the season, do a round robin between the LCS and top challengers where the teams with the best records stay/are promoted. The top LCS team only drops if they lose every game, the next gets a 1 game handicap, and the last two go based on record. In case of tiebreaks, Bo3 action.

So let's say there are 4 LCS teams and 16 challengers. The top 4 challengers get to try for a LCS spot. SMT has the best regular season record, so they are exempt from this-- they play, but they can't be dropped unless they go 0-7. The next team, C8, goes in and has a record of 4-3, and other teams have 5-2, 4-3 and two teams go 6-1. C8 is okay because their second place win grants them a "free win" which bumps them to 5 wins. then they play a Bo3 with the 5-2 team for the last spot.
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
November 04 2013 05:30 GMT
#1391
season of the odd one coming now that he has been freed from the oppressive shackles of the reginald support role, in a few months people are gonna be like, meteos who?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2013 05:33 GMT
#1392
On November 04 2013 14:30 chalice wrote:
season of the odd one coming now that he has been freed from the oppressive shackles of the reginald support role, in a few months people are gonna be like, meteos who?

What? Bjersen is just as jungler dependent as Reginald. Except he can carry after he gets a lead.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 04 2013 05:33 GMT
#1393
On November 04 2013 14:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
On November 04 2013 14:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
bjergsen is a downgrade from reginald

eagerly awaiting tsm not making playoffs for the first time in years

cant even chant TSM TSM anymore rip regi


hey now u cant just give opinions without supporting them with strong evidence and logical reasoning and hard equations and rational thinking


TSM TSM

I leik it.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 04 2013 05:34 GMT
#1394
Being paired with (not against) abrasive quad queue players is not very fun. Here's to hoping the tribunal actually works.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 04 2013 05:36 GMT
#1395
So I'm interested, what have peoples experiences with Sivir been?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2013 05:38 GMT
#1396
On November 04 2013 14:36 Ketara wrote:
So I'm interested, what have peoples experiences with Sivir been?

They've been winning, but I don't feel like she's strong though. It's not like she was an impact in game, just got no impact.
liftlift > tsm
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 04 2013 05:40 GMT
#1397
On November 04 2013 14:36 Ketara wrote:
So I'm interested, what have peoples experiences with Sivir been?

I ban it if I'm FP along with Heimer and Kass.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 04 2013 05:53 GMT
#1398
On November 04 2013 14:36 Ketara wrote:
So I'm interested, what have peoples experiences with Sivir been?

The bitch hurts. A lot. No escapes makes her get bodied by Jarjar tho.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 04 2013 05:57 GMT
#1399
On November 04 2013 14:36 Ketara wrote:
So I'm interested, what have peoples experiences with Sivir been?


I crush normals with her!

That being said, she feels kinda meh. It's nice to be able to use your spell shield at 0 mana cost, but she feels kinda bleh aside from that. Attack speed without ricochet up is god awful (and her ult so you get the passive bonus). Her ult doesn't really do anything other than give movespeed.

So she's kinda bleh in 1v1s/2v2s imo.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 04 2013 05:59 GMT
#1400
i feel like my damage with sivir is so meh
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