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On November 16 2013 03:54 Prog wrote: Because they don't beat you in trades. ~~
Edit: at least early game.
Are we talking autos? Because Q is really weak until lvl 3. Like, Old Lulu I agree, but modern Lulu is only a decent laner.
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On November 16 2013 04:52 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 04:50 tl2212 wrote: is cloth + pots a legit start for some jungles? like garen, riven, khazix? No. Also why are you jungling Garen?
at the tail end of s3 in ranked 5s, i was playing with some friends and ran into EHOMDA and crew (of normal queue fun police fame), and they ran:
AD TF top Garen Jungle Wukong mid Darius + Xin bot lane
all they did past about level 3 was roam around into our jungle or turret dive as 4 while TF farmed top once they all had their spin moves (6 for xin and wukong) they would just mercilessly chase us around and as soon as they could catch someone, spin all at the same time while yelling in all-chat "THE BLENDER THE BLENDER"
it was the best
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On November 16 2013 04:52 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 04:50 tl2212 wrote: is cloth + pots a legit start for some jungles? like garen, riven, khazix? No. Also why are you jungling Garen?
Saw Chauster jungle him earlier season 3 before he switched to playing jungler for CLG, and he made him look super scary. Had well timed ganks and just fucked people up while they tried to all-in their lanes. He did it over 3 games so I've seen it in more than just one game.
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i mean thats just him having good gank timing you can do that with everyone you dont need to be garen lol
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I'm not saying it's Garen, just saying I saw him do it.
On November 16 2013 06:03 Osmoses wrote: Not saying it was Garen. But it was Garen.
Yeah kinda
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Not saying it was Garen. But it was Garen.
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lol ok first off, i was jungling garen because it was trynd free week (who i suck as) so i blind countered a jungle Trynda as jungle Garen. It totally worked and the other jungle was trynd, and i counter jungled him and killed him twice at his red pre 6. #datscilence
lol if you can jungle EZ and jungle Fizz then imo u can jungle almost any character.... maybe not some super squishy mages but for the most part once you get past 3 you should be able to clear camps very easy.
Which is why sometimes i get armor, cause i feel like as squishier assassin type jungles its important to have HP when u gank. and if you have buffs u can spam spells to clear camps and so if im jungle khazix, i figure the armor helps me have a lot more HP when i go to gank, because after a few Q i will kill all the creeps with some auto attacks, and having a little more dmg on my autos wont help me clear the jungle faster, esp after lvl 3
.... lol yah im bronze plz give me jungle builds
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Well as far as garen and k6 are concerned both are just weak lvl 3 gankers in general. Also with proper leash you should be coming out of jungle with near full health at lvl 3.
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are you actually trying to make k6 a thing
stop trying to k6 happen it's not going to happen
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Call him Bug. Then pretend you're watching Uncle Buck.
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On November 16 2013 06:23 tl2212 wrote: lol ok first off, i was jungling garen because it was trynd free week (who i suck as) so i blind countered a jungle Trynda as jungle Garen. It totally worked and the other jungle was trynd, and i counter jungled him and killed him twice at his red pre 6. #datscilence
lol if you can jungle EZ and jungle Fizz then imo u can jungle almost any character.... maybe not some super squishy mages but for the most part once you get past 3 you should be able to clear camps very easy.
Which is why sometimes i get armor, cause i feel like as squishier assassin type jungles its important to have HP when u gank. and if you have buffs u can spam spells to clear camps and so if im jungle khazix, i figure the armor helps me have a lot more HP when i go to gank, because after a few Q i will kill all the creeps with some auto attacks, and having a little more dmg on my autos wont help me clear the jungle faster, esp after lvl 3
.... lol yah im bronze plz give me jungle builds
Pretty "standard" jungle build path is Hunter's Machete + 5 health pots.
First item is Spirit of the Ancient Golem (or boots of speed).
Second item is either Locket of the Iron Solari/Aegis, Sunfire Cape, or Spirit Visage.
Third item is probably one of the above.
Upgraded boots are going to be Ninja Tabi 99% of the time (Merc Treads are redundant because of Spirit item, if you need MR rush the Spirit Visage).
This is just a really basic guide for the basic junglers (Jarvan IV, Elise, Vi, Lee Sin, Udyr (hue), etc...)
There are endless variations to how you could/would/should build a jungler, but this build is solid.
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Tabi 99% of the time? I really like mobility boots on Vi, Sorc. shoes on Sejuani, and swifties on Udyr. But maybe that's just me.
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I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST
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On November 16 2013 06:23 tl2212 wrote: lol ok first off, i was jungling garen because it was trynd free week (who i suck as) so i blind countered a jungle Trynda as jungle Garen. It totally worked and the other jungle was trynd, and i counter jungled him and killed him twice at his red pre 6. #datscilence
lol if you can jungle EZ and jungle Fizz then imo u can jungle almost any character.... maybe not some super squishy mages but for the most part once you get past 3 you should be able to clear camps very easy.
Which is why sometimes i get armor, cause i feel like as squishier assassin type jungles its important to have HP when u gank. and if you have buffs u can spam spells to clear camps and so if im jungle khazix, i figure the armor helps me have a lot more HP when i go to gank, because after a few Q i will kill all the creeps with some auto attacks, and having a little more dmg on my autos wont help me clear the jungle faster, esp after lvl 3
.... lol yah im bronze plz give me jungle builds
Are your teammates giving you a solid leash? If you're taking like any more than 1 health pot of damage off of your first buff then its pretty unlikely on some of the worse junglers that you can do the double-buff lvl 3 gank route.
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On November 16 2013 07:23 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST I like swifties on Udyr cause he really wants that extra movespeed at all times, not just before fights break out. Altho Tabis or Mercs are usually the safer choice for fighting.
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On November 16 2013 07:20 YouGotNothin wrote: Tabi 99% of the time? I really like mobility boots on Vi, Sorc. shoes on Sejuani, and swifties on Udyr. But maybe that's just me. I normally get mofo boots on pretty much any early game jungler like vi, J4 or aatrox since I want to get as many ganks as humanly possible before laning ends so I can try to snowball for a quick win. It's pretty much the only way I know how to jungle (Also the only way I enjoy jungle)
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On November 16 2013 07:38 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 07:23 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST I like swifties on Udyr cause he really wants that extra movespeed at all times, not just before fights break out. Altho Tabis or Mercs are usually the safer choice for fighting. I'll also occasionally get them on Volibear, they work well on him.
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On November 16 2013 07:43 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 07:38 Ryuu314 wrote:On November 16 2013 07:23 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST I like swifties on Udyr cause he really wants that extra movespeed at all times, not just before fights break out. Altho Tabis or Mercs are usually the safer choice for fighting. I'll also occasionally get them on Volibear, they work well on him.
There's an argument for getting them on Vi too because it practically eliminates her Vault Breaker self-slow but idk if that's a good enough trade-off for being able to cross the map like a rocket ship with fists.
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On November 16 2013 07:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 07:43 Requizen wrote:On November 16 2013 07:38 Ryuu314 wrote:On November 16 2013 07:23 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST I like swifties on Udyr cause he really wants that extra movespeed at all times, not just before fights break out. Altho Tabis or Mercs are usually the safer choice for fighting. I'll also occasionally get them on Volibear, they work well on him. There's an argument for getting them on Vi too because it practically eliminates her Vault Breaker self-slow but idk if that's a good enough trade-off for being able to cross the map like a rocket ship with fists. I don't think it's worth it on vi, either mobilities for early game, tabi for tank vi or treads for carry vi. I can see the value of swiftness but imo in all three ways to play vi I think there are better options.
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On November 16 2013 07:48 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 07:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 16 2013 07:43 Requizen wrote:On November 16 2013 07:38 Ryuu314 wrote:On November 16 2013 07:23 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can't think of a jungler I don't buy MoBos on, but that's because I GOTTA GO FAST I like swifties on Udyr cause he really wants that extra movespeed at all times, not just before fights break out. Altho Tabis or Mercs are usually the safer choice for fighting. I'll also occasionally get them on Volibear, they work well on him. There's an argument for getting them on Vi too because it practically eliminates her Vault Breaker self-slow but idk if that's a good enough trade-off for being able to cross the map like a rocket ship with fists. I don't think it's worth it on vi, either mobilities for early game, tabi for tank vi or treads for carry vi. I can see the value of swiftness but imo in all three ways to play vi I think there are better options.
Yeah, I agree. It's just highly amusing not to have a slow on that skill.
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