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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 17:43:54
November 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#3301
Has anyone seen the new Wriggle's? I'm astounded by how bad it looks. Not sure what it is about this item they are so helpless to fix.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 17:53 GMT
#3302
On November 15 2013 02:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Wriggle's? I'm astounded by how bad it looks. Not sure what it is about this item they are so helpless to fix.

Well they want to avoid laners from picking it up. Remember when wriggles top lane and adc was a thing? Wouldn't be uncommon to have 3 of them on a team.
liftlift > tsm
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 14 2013 17:56 GMT
#3303
On November 15 2013 02:20 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Found this on Reddit, I laughed incredibly hard. Look out, Urgot.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/elise&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=gold#statistics

That win rate drop, Riot buff please!
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 14 2013 17:58 GMT
#3304
Mundo has crappy AS but still a 100-200 AD steroid with 100% uptime late game. He's not that bad if he gets to pile his W aura, cleavers and autos on a target.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 14 2013 17:58 GMT
#3305
On November 15 2013 02:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Wriggle's? I'm astounded by how bad it looks. Not sure what it is about this item they are so helpless to fix.

Well they want to avoid laners from picking it up. Remember when wriggles top lane and adc was a thing? Wouldn't be uncommon to have 3 of them on a team.

I think the idea of S4 wriggles is for melee carries to afk farm the jungle. (Yi, Tryn, Fiora)
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 14 2013 18:09 GMT
#3306
On November 15 2013 02:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Wriggle's? I'm astounded by how bad it looks. Not sure what it is about this item they are so helpless to fix.



It has to be bad, otherwise it'll be tempting for laners to purchase it as well as the "tanky" junglers (eg. Jarvan and Vi). There needs to be diversity and the new wriggle's looks extremely good on the likes of Master Yi, Xin Zhao, Aatrox etc.
hi
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:18:09
November 14 2013 18:17 GMT
#3307
I don't know why you guys are talking about laners. Look at the item instead of just copy pasting red posts please. Consider how much the bonus gold will be compared to the other jungle items (it's not a big difference) and then think about the fact it has poor stats in the first place so you're starting at a deficit.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:23:26
November 14 2013 18:21 GMT
#3308
On November 15 2013 02:58 Ghost-z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 02:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Wriggle's? I'm astounded by how bad it looks. Not sure what it is about this item they are so helpless to fix.

Well they want to avoid laners from picking it up. Remember when wriggles top lane and adc was a thing? Wouldn't be uncommon to have 3 of them on a team.

I think the idea of S4 wriggles is for melee carries to afk farm the jungle. (Yi, Tryn, Fiora)

Yeah, but I'm saying why they are having such a hard time balancing wriggles.

They want to avoid laners from picking up jungler items.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:31:33
November 14 2013 18:30 GMT
#3309
On November 15 2013 02:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Where's Ketara @

http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=32520

Riot logic. "hey guys we nerfed urgot to shit, then we nerfed the items that made him strong, so now we need a rework to make him viable". Maybe "buff" should've been an option? The reason people don't play him is that you nerfed him to shit, not because people didn't enjoy playing him.

Core gameplay - QE and W(or equivalent) slowing should be exactly the same, possibly with some range increases(dem nerfs yo), and moving his attack range up to at least 475 if not 500. I'd imagine they would change his W/R though. The thing I don't get though is, urgot's kit apart from his ultimate is perfectly fine.

Knowing riot though, they'd probably make urgot Q reduce CD on other skills by .5s per hunter landed.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 14 2013 18:35 GMT
#3310
On November 15 2013 03:30 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Where's Ketara @

http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=32520

Riot logic. "hey guys we nerfed urgot to shit, then we nerfed the items that made him strong, so now we need a rework to make him viable". Maybe "buff" should've been an option? The reason people don't play him is that you nerfed him to shit, not because people didn't enjoy playing him.

Core gameplay - QE and W(or equivalent) slowing should be exactly the same, possibly with some range increases(dem nerfs yo), and moving his attack range up to at least 475 if not 500. I'd imagine they would change his W/R though. The thing I don't get though is, urgot's kit apart from his ultimate is perfectly fine.

Knowing riot though, they'd probably make urgot Q reduce CD on other skills by .5s per hunter landed.


don't forget the inevitable true damage they'll be adding.
:3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:37:47
November 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#3311
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 14 2013 18:39 GMT
#3312
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:48:48
November 14 2013 18:48 GMT
#3313
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 14 2013 18:49 GMT
#3314
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 14 2013 18:50 GMT
#3315
bot lane jump over the wall and remove their support from the battle


such gank, very wtf.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 18:51:47
November 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#3316
On November 15 2013 03:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.

But there is a reason though. If enemy adc is super farmed cuz of any reason. Always worth trading your life for them.
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#3317
On November 15 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.

But there is a reason though. If enemy adc is super farmed cuz of any reason. Always worth trading your life for them.

Then you can just play Zed and yolossassin him because you'll never hit that skillshot if he's got a decent team covering for him.
The legend of Darien lives on
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#3318
On November 15 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.

But there is a reason though. If enemy adc is super farmed cuz of any reason. Always worth trading your life for them.


I suppose, but if it's only useful as a suicide trade then Riot won't make it that way. With Urgot now it's possible to survive because your closer to your team and decently tanky (though still not super likely).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 18:54 GMT
#3319
On November 15 2013 03:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.

But there is a reason though. If enemy adc is super farmed cuz of any reason. Always worth trading your life for them.


I suppose, but if it's only useful as a suicide trade then Riot won't make it that way. With Urgot now it's possible to survive because your closer to your team and decently tanky (though still not super likely).

Options> no options. Imo it opens up more situations for him to be useful.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 18:56 GMT
#3320
On November 15 2013 03:53 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 15 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote:
What if they made his ult a skillshot, but double or triple the range?

Sounds retarded, if it has more range you'll end up even further from your team. KAMIKAZE URGOT.

You don't have to hit it at the tip of the skill shot..


If there's never a reason to use it super far away, then there's no reason for it to have that range.

But there is a reason though. If enemy adc is super farmed cuz of any reason. Always worth trading your life for them.

Then you can just play Zed and yolossassin him because you'll never hit that skillshot if he's got a decent team covering for him.

Just like nidalee spears right? Just dodge um they said
liftlift > tsm
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